• Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    27 days ago

    This has not been true for the vast majority of human history, and there’s no reason it needs to be true in the future.

    This is the case for capitalism as well. But capitalism is a blight today, and while capitalism is hurtling toward its own contradictions destroying it, will it do so before the climate change destroys us and most other life on this planet?

    I don’t think humans are inherently destructive. I do think that at this particular moment in time, we are a blight to the health and survival of nonhumansm

    Also, feudalism is not going to replace capitalism. That’s completely ahistorical.

    Yes, because capitalism won out over feudalism. But if capitalism is not there, reactionary forces will still seek ways to establish dominance and now the fuedalism-killer is magically disappeared. I don’t think history can really apply to this weird magical hypothetical so well

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      27 days ago

      I don’t think this argument, debate, what-have-you has any point, so I’m just gonna say my last piece and drown in the ratio:

      The causes of suffering in this world are great and many and complicated, and the elimination of this suffering will require more than any single thing to achieve. This exercise gives us the bluntest possible instrument with which to solve as much as possible.

      Eliminating capitalism would make the world a better place. But other evils would still exist, such as racism (despite the fact that capitalism created it, it will sustain itself without capitalism if we don’t act to combat it). Other evils would still exist as well.

      I read this question as what single thing would eliminate the most of the bad things. Capitalism would eliminate a lot of them, but is there a way to eliminate more of them? If the answer is yes, then capitalism is not the best solution, only a very good one.

      Thinking on it more I think I’d say “I’d eliminate suffering.” It’s the only answer that would eliminate all suffering (my previous answer is just another trolley switch scenario that puts humans on the top track.)

      This isnt a real-world scenario. It’s a philosophical game, and the “correct” solution is going to be equally detached from material reality