I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn’t look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I’m drawing is that for my purposes it doesn’t really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

  • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I agree with you. IMO, it’s not that different.

    The big difference is between the tankie LARPer instances (lemmygrad, hexbear, parts of lemmy.ml) and the rest of the major instances.

    • zante@slrpnk.net
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      As a socialist, you will understand I’m sure that constant being slurred with “tANkiE” from mostly .world users is very tiring

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        Says the person who has massive amounts of Antisemitic hatred and are quite happy to full on blow Putin’s dick whilst spouting his propaganda I’m not shocked you’re being called a Tankie

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          They used a political slur against entire servers and on the left, there is a concept of solidarity.

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            Solidarity with authoritarians has a long and sordid history of betrayal and being lined up against walls in the end. Anarchists have had to learn that lesson in the most brutal of ways.

            • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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              Yep. They only tolerate you as long as you’re useful. As long as you don’t push back against their mass incarceration, assassination, and even genocide. Authoritarians are authoritarian first. Left or right is a distant afterthought.

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        There’s a difference between being a socialist, and blindly defending authoritarian regimes that claim they are socialist. Those instances earned their reputation for a reason.

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          Make it a stickie, because barely anyone observes this definition.

          I am regularly slurred as Russian bot or a tANkiE when calling for peace and de-escalation of war.

          Daily .

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            Have you stopped to consider that maybe you’re just an asshole?

            No, seriously, you’re whining about being called a tankie when… like dude, you’re a tankie. Half your comments are just bringing up how EU/UK support for Ukraine’s defense is a frivolous waste or similar. I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

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              I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

              From my position warmongering is deeply toxic.

              No matter how much organizing you do with other anarchists offline, to the .world crowd if you’re to the left of Joe Biden you’re a tankie.

            • zante@slrpnk.net
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              … the root of the problem is your apparent compulsion to call people “toxic” and “assholes” for having different views.

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                Ah yes, the “no u” gambit. Classic, deadly, refined. The most elegant of rebuttals. A refuge for only the sharpest of wits.

                Anyways, do you mean different views like say, someone holding different (and by your own admission, quite common) opinions about how your conduct reflects on your character…?

              • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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                They’re not calling you that for having different views. They’re calling you that for making up reasons to offend yourself and acting like a toxic drama queen. And the ratio shows they aren’t alone.

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                  And what is your reason for adding your personal attack to this already well populated debate ?

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                    You’re doing it again. Me pointing out a simple fact. That you brought up two different things which the author never even addressed. In order to turn yourself into some victim. That is a simple fact. If you feel that it is an attack on you to have that pointed out. Perhaps you need to look inwards.

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        There’s a huge difference between a tankie and a socialist:

        • Socialist supports economic policy aimed at just distribution of resources
        • Tankie supports fascist-like authoritarianism under a mask of socialism
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            Uh… Yeah, it does. It literally defines the meaning and the context in which the term is used. Thats… how language works. Fundementally.

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              Goodness me, you are being difficult today.

              I think you can appreciate, that no one user’s definition - no matter how agreeable you and I might find it - speaks to everyone’s definition of the same term.

              Especially when we are talking about colloquial slur, like tankie, which isn’t in main dictionaries.

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                Sure, but it does speak to that user’s definition, which is what they were talking about. And honestly, their definition is pretty much the standard. ‘A pejorative term for supporters of authoritarian regimes, particularly communist ones’ is the definition in some form across every site I’ve turned up in the thirty seconds I spent on this. It’s what everyone else in this thread appears to be using. Seems like its pretty agreed on.

      • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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        It’s fair to call people who white-wash authoritarianism, genocide and roleplay as communists tankies.

        This is not a matter of different opinions. They openly support the russian invasion, the atrocities of the russian occupation and reject Ukrainian identity and self-determination.

        It’s the literal definition of the word.