• xia@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 hours ago

    The deeper tragedy is in the meme as a whole. There has been so much power, control, and hope sucked away from us… and they try to replace it with panic (usually to buy a product or lie). I would like to believe that the situation is not hopeless, and that we are not powerless…

  • xylogx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    2 hours ago

    Its bad, I get it. But lets go back to 1968 when baby boomers who would give birth to the millennial generation was born. Vietnam, political assassinations , race riots, anarchist bombings. Throw in watergate and stagflation. The world has always been burning.

  • LouNeko@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    7 hours ago

    A shitty life situation has never stopped anybody from having kids. Quite the opposite, the less educated a society and the lower the prospect of comfort, the more kids people have. Poor and miserable people fuck for fun and don’t care about proper contraceptives, resulting in more kids. Further more, people believe that the more kids you’ll have, the more likely it is that one of them is going to end up rich and successfull.

      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 hours ago

        That’s because people are actually more educated than ever at least in part thanks to the internet. In most places the standard of living has actually gone up, in some cases quite drastically. So people are more comfortable. A lot of the doomerism stuff doesn’t take into account any of the awful stuff that happened in the past, and most are only focused on the USA which is having weird problems at the moment. In most of the world the material wealth of the average person has gone up, not down.

    • MonkderVierte
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 hours ago

      the less educated a society and the lower the prospect of comfort, the more kids people have

      Yes, by instinct. And the more educated they are, the more they can make informed decisions.

      In that sense, keeping children uneducated is rape by extension.

    • truxnell@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      5 hours ago

      Yeah feeling this, I’m a little tired of one country projecting it issues on the entire world.

      That sentence can be interpreted in a number of ways and all are correct sadly.

    • Baggie@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      7 hours ago

      I know Australia is American lite sometimes, but we also have most of these issues. Shit is going bad in a lot of places is my understanding.

      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 hours ago

        Not really. Most of Europe is just fine. We in the UK have elected a labor government for the first time in several elections as the conservatives severely fucked up multiple times. Far right wing sentiment is on the rise in several countries, but that doesn’t make them the majority, so they aren’t winning elections anywhere but locally. Mostly the far right are just taking votes from the moderate right.

  • wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    You can be damned sure the crazy fundamentalists are gonna have a shit ton of kids. And some of those will vote.

    • Spacehooks@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 hours ago

      During covid and maybe bird flu if it takes off. Also if vaccines stop being a thing In murica.

    • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 hours ago

      So says the headline, but the entire article focuses on males and how much they love that he did shit like Rogan. I’m not saying young women can’t also be idiots or angry at the present state of things, but they didn’t completely forget that the right sees them as procreation slaves.

      https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4986243-trump-gen-z-voters-shift/amp/#amp_ct=1732198304481&amp_tf=From+%251%24s&aoh=17321982963326&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

    • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 hours ago

      Well yeah, young men bought into all the incelfluencer crap they were being fed. Probably a good thing since young women by and large are flocking the opposite way and absolutely don’t want to fuck conservatives.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 hours ago

      I mean, they did vote for change… just not the change we were hoping for, I guess. Things will most likely change for the worse now.

      That said, real good change wasn’t really on the ballot either.

    • stoly@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      Yeah I’m afraid that the lesson is that Gen Z is not actually the future, they are going to repeat the past. What makes me sad is that they should have been the future but social media made sure that didn’t happen.

      • AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        15 hours ago

        Did social media make sure that didn’t happen, or did the fact that virtually every generation ultimately repeats the mistakes of the one before it ensure that didn’t happen?

        • stoly@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          15 hours ago

          That they could have been so much better without Zuckerberg, Savage, Peterson, etc.

          • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            3 hours ago

            Exactly. They’re turning young men into the generation that will force American women into burqas. Or at least support / help with the move.

    • ripcord@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      17 hours ago

      but the system is rigged or my vote doesn’t count or genocide joe or some stupid shit

      • alcoholicorn
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        16 hours ago

        I mean genocide joe is calling any democrat who wants to stop sending weapons to israel a hamas supporter. I can understand why they didn’t believe the dems would fix the situation.

    • Glytch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      16 hours ago

      Look at this guy thinking that we can vote our way out of this when we only have two, corporate sponsored, candidates.

  • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    65
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    23 hours ago

    If I ever decide to have kids then I’m adopting because I can’t in good conscience bring a life into this shitty world

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Given the glut of unwanted children from our abortion prohibition, we’ll be needing a lot of new adoptive parents in the near future.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 hours ago

          Babies get adopted quickly.

          Healthy, white babies do. It’s a lot harder for minority kids, preemies, and anyone with congenital health issues (even relatively minor ones)

        • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          18 hours ago

          Not foster kids. Foster parents/adoptions are always needing people, even babies. Sometimes the babies have to sleep in the DHR office, because there’s nowhere for them to go.

          • andros_rex@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            11 hours ago

            Talked to a social worker - kids in DHS care sleep in homeless shelters, hospitals, DHS offices. Teen group homes are inherently damaging to them; I’ve never seen a good one.

            Foster teens. Short term commitment. They will have severe trauma and can be hard to deal with, but you would be amazed at how they respond if you can genuinely provide love. Love and Logic is fucking magic.

            If you can’t foster, you can be a child advocate. Many states have CASA programs. Visit the kid once a month, let them know someone cares, and tell the court what you think is best for them. Even just something like a phone call “hey, kid left something behind at the group home - any way we could get that moved?”

            Or even just someone to protect them from the group home. A dozen seriously traumatized kids, with staff paid less than $15/hr on a week of training. A place that provides opportunities for people to be around children, who are already isolated and have limited access to supportive adults… and financial incentives to cover anything up.

            I don’t think there’s much hope for the future, but we can focus on the now and helping the children who are already here.

      • Bob@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        32
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        23 hours ago

        The comic is very America-centric if you look at the problems mentioned in totality.

        • silasmariner@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          21 hours ago

          Not the same level of problems with mass shootings in the UK. And whilst I take the point about healthcare it’s a very different kind of issue, and if you get triaged conveniently it can work out for you… Really just depends what you need and how old you are, but at least having a baby and keeping it alive is fairly well covered

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      21 hours ago

      The US is far from the only country with violent racism. In terms of healthcare, the privatization. The Canadian healthcare system is being increasingly enshittified by conservatives up here, too.

      • steel_nomad@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        7 hours ago

        The Canadian healthcare system is being increasingly enshittified by conservatives up here, too

        FTFY

        • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 hours ago

          The conservatives are the main ones behind it, and as usual everyone believes it is failing on its own due to ‘free means shit’ and not realizing just how deep conservative shit is being encrusted into it.

      • Siegfried@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        17 hours ago

        Most countries have racism, some have violent racism… and there are some in which terrorist organizations like KKK are freely roaming the streets and are ok for some reason.

        Anyway, it feels wierd to speak shit of the USA when there currently are countries actively working on ethnic cleansing.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        23 hours ago

        the UK has 2 out of 3 of those

        Change “shooting” to “knifing” and its 3 for 3. The UK has a huge hooliganism problem. The country is rife with domestic violence. But no (non-police) guns!

      • Cypher@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        24 hours ago

        Most countries have less violent racism now than at any other point in history.

        • Ech@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          23 hours ago

          That bar you’re bragging about stepping over is subterranean.

    • alcoholicorn
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      violent racism

      Now tell us what you think needs to be done about g*psies.

      • UltraGiGaGigantic
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Nah bro, trump try will nuke the superbowl for his false flag and accidentally have his ketchup covered fingers slip and push to many buttons and nuke the rest of the USA leaving the rest of the world and native American reservations in tact

    • dafo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Yeah I don’t really get comics like these, or any other form of “[my generation] has it the worst, the world had been destroyed, why should I have kids” that more or less ignores all of history.

      For context, I’m gen Z/millennial with a child and planning another with my wife. We’re not rich or living in nice city of whatever, just living in a smaller city in Europe.

      • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 hours ago

        Oh thank god one person on this threat who is not opposed to children or straight out antinatalist