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    A democracy that recently announced that it postponed elections, a year after declaring the opposition parties as illegal.

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      You know that postponing elections during a war is : a, fucking logical, because how to fuck are you going to get a representative vote if half of the country has fled or is on the frontline and b, their constitution says there can’t be elections during martial law. source Every fucking pro Russian troll arguments in this thread need to be ousted here before this place gets to be a Russian troll pit as well.

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        Just the reply I was expecting, thanks for walking right into the trap where you conveniently failed to even mention the opposition part.

        And I’m the troll.

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        Even Foreign Policy isn’t as one-sided as you are in their portrayal of the situation:

        Concern over the decision to postpone Ukraine’s elections has come from both Ukraine’s friends and foes. […] On the other hand, PACE President Tiny Kox said that while he recognizes the enormity of the struggle Ukraine faces, the country must uphold its obligations under international agreements to hold elections. “It is up to [Ukraine] how to solve this challenge,” he told a Council of Europe summit in May, adding that “there will be no complaints against Ukraine if the elections are not ideal. But if you do not hold elections, then everyone will have questions about you … without elections, democracy is impossible.”

        Unless PACE is also just a Russian troll. 🤡

        But indeed, elections during war/state of emergency are unconstitutional and highly impractible. Still funny you dodged the opposition point I made.

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          Untill you give me a source that states that the opposition isn’t able to function, I’m going to treat that part of your argument as blatant misinformation.

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            It’s crazy how some people can have such strong opinions about this conflict while being so uninformed at the same time.

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              The first one that dies in a war is the truth. Every party tries to steer the narrative. It’s hard to keep a neutral stance. Fact is that Russia invaded a sovereign country under the false pretenses of ‘denazification’ and ‘military operation’. No Ukraine is not a shining beacon of democracy. Yes they were open for nato membership, yes US politics was heavily involved, and no their special treaty with Russia to not do so does not fucking matter because Russia already invaded Ukraine in 2014 making that treaty void. If Russia wants peace, all they need to do is leave Ukraine, super simple. We all know that won’t happen because Putin’s small dick ego can’t handle that.

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            At least you’re open about your complete lack of awareness of this war. It’s shocking you’re even participating in this discussion though. The arrogance of offloading basic research of topics from a year ago to someone else to prove that I’m not spreading misinformation is quite something though.

            Ukraine has had to take extraordinary measures to fight Russia’s invasion. Among them, the government has consolidated the country’s television outlets and dissolved rival political parties.

            Source is NPR: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110577439/zelenskyy-has-consolidated-ukraines-tv-outlets-and-dissolved-rival-political-par

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              Blocking opposition parties is not pretty. Not all opposition parties were blocked tough, only the ones with strong ties to Russia. source