Why did they kill Haniyeh when he was the guy they were negotiating with as Hamas’s head diplomat? All while both sides were apparently “days away from an agreement”?
You don’t make peace with your friends. You make peace with your enemies.
Unless you actually plan on commiting a full scale and thorough genocide, eliminating terrorists is simply not a viable strategy for defeating terrorism. If you don’t go all the way to genocide, then a sizable portion of the non-terrorists you didn’t kill will become terrorist
You act as if people in Hamas and Hezbollah have no agency in the matter.
Becoming a terrorist isn’t some predetermined act of destiny, it’s a deliberate life choice–the cost of which is having your dick blown off by an exploding pager.
Islamists or Zionists, I know which one I’d put my money on the next time there’s a random terrorist attack somewhere in the western world…
The Palestinians were handed a nation on a silver platter after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, but they were too stupid and greedy for their own good and decided to wage an unsuccessful war of genocide against Israel in 1947, only to have the entire thing blow up in their face and cost them almost half of their territory. Sound familiar?
Zionism is a Settler Colonialist Ideology that planned the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1947
Partition
The Zionist position changed in 1928, when the pragmatic Palestinian leaders agreed to the principle of parity in a rare moment in which clannish and religious differences were overcome for the sake of consensus. The Palestinian leaders feared that without parity the Zionists would gain control of the political system. The unexpected Palestinian agreement threw the Zionist leaders into temporary confusion. When they recovered, they sent a refusal to the British, but at the same time offered an alternative solution: the partitioning of Palestine into two political units.
Pg 132 of Ilan Pappe - A History of Modern Palestine
On 31 August 1947, UNSCOP presented its recommendations to the UN General Assembly. Three of its members were allowed to put forward an alternative recommendation. The majority report advocated the partition of Palestine into two states, with an economic union. The designated Jewish state was to have most of the coastal area, western Galilee, and the Negev, and the rest was to become the Palestinian state. The minority report proposed a unitary state in Palestine based on the principle of democracy. It took considerable American Jewish lobbying and American diplomatic pressure, as well as a powerful speech by the Russian ambassador to the UN, to gain the necessary two-thirds majority in the Assembly for partition. Even though hardly any Palestinian or Arab diplomat made an effort to promote the alternative scheme, it won an equal number of supporters and detractors, showing that a considerable number of member states realized that imposing partition amounted to supporting one side and opposing the other.
Pg 181 of Ilan Pappe - A History of Modern Palestine
Ethnic Cleansing and Settler Colonialism
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Uhhhhhh what does that have to do with a 7 year old starving to death in Gaza? Honestly you just showed your hand. Good bye bigot. I already have you blocked and screened
How can there be a negotiations if they keep killing the person on the other side of negotiations?!
Why did they kill Haniyeh when he was the guy they were negotiating with as Hamas’s head diplomat? All while both sides were apparently “days away from an agreement”?
You don’t negotiate with terrorists, you eliminate them.
You don’t make peace with your friends. You make peace with your enemies.
Unless you actually plan on commiting a full scale and thorough genocide, eliminating terrorists is simply not a viable strategy for defeating terrorism. If you don’t go all the way to genocide, then a sizable portion of the non-terrorists you didn’t kill will become terrorist
A good example of this is the Taliban.
You act as if people in Hamas and Hezbollah have no agency in the matter.
Becoming a terrorist isn’t some predetermined act of destiny, it’s a deliberate life choice–the cost of which is having your dick blown off by an exploding pager.
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter… All Zionest are terrorists too so if that’s the standard…
Islamists or Zionists, I know which one I’d put my money on the next time there’s a random terrorist attack somewhere in the western world…
The Palestinians were handed a nation on a silver platter after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, but they were too stupid and greedy for their own good and decided to wage an unsuccessful war of genocide against Israel in 1947, only to have the entire thing blow up in their face and cost them almost half of their territory. Sound familiar?
Zionism is a Settler Colonialist Ideology that planned the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1947
Partition
Ethnic Cleansing and Settler Colonialism
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
Apartheid Evidence
Amnesty Report
Human Rights Watch Report
B’TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Historian Works on the History
Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History - Nur Masalha
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
10 Myths About Israel - Ilan Pappe (summery)
Uhhhhhh what does that have to do with a 7 year old starving to death in Gaza? Honestly you just showed your hand. Good bye bigot. I already have you blocked and screened
So Israel should be eliminated?