• MisterScruffy
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    1 month ago

    I don’t understand this meme. Ukraine was more or less a neutral state before 2014 and then there was a pro-Western coup that removed the democratically elected gov and set off the violence that is still going on. That’s what drew Russia into the conflict.

    • girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      The past leader of Ukraine was in Putin’s pocket. Zelensky actually changed this and obviously being annexed kinda makes it hard to be neutral, so I’m not sure where you got that from.

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        So was Ukraine neutral before 2014 or not? The meme seems to be saying it was neutral and I’m also saying it was more or less neutral.

        Are you disagreeing with the meme?

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        The past leader of Ukraine was in Putin’s pocket. Zelensky actually changed this

        Huh, that is interesting. Can you tell us any more about his predecessor?

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            1 month ago
            whoosh

            (hint: check who Zelensky’s predecessor was)

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                That’s literally about his predecessor.

                The link you posted is from January 2014, which is the time period of his predecessor’s predecessor’s predecessor.

                Zelensky’s presidency started in 2019. As late as 2018, he was still releasing comedy films which were being banned in Ukraine under his predecessor’s anti-Russian cultural laws.

                If you want to brush up on recent history, this video Ukraine: The Avoidable War is not bad.

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                  Oh for fuck’s sake, this has all been about you being Captain Literal? Yes, I know Poroshenko directly preceded Zelensky. That’s not what anyone is talking about here.

                  • Arthur BesseA
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                    That’s not what anyone is talking about here.

                    Look again at the comment i replied to and quoted in my initial comment which you subsequently replied to. Is there another way to interpret it which I’m missing?