• Moops@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Right!? I’ve been so confused by the notion of Trump being the anti-Israel vote. That’s not what I heard him say.

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        11 hours ago

        I had someone arguing at me here, with the supreme confidence of the ignorant, that trump and Harris would be the same for Palestineans.

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          10 hours ago

          The Harris/Biden comparison was more valid, although we can’t be sure she would stay that path once in office and with pressure from Congress and public. But at least there was a chance of both of those. Anyone who thought Trump wouldn’t ramp things up or would listen to calls for change…I don’t know what they were thinking. He’s never done that, never been like that. His history as a businessman and as a President for four years is right there to review.

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            6 hours ago

            The thing is that Harris could be moved by progressives winning primaries and the 2026 midterms at the very least. There is almost no hope of something similar for trump.

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          10 hours ago

          I mean yeah he would be/is, at least until Israel’s genocide is over. There is literally nothing Trump can do (at least while beholden to the public and Congress) in this war that Biden hasn’t already done.

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            6 hours ago

            That’s the silliest damn thing.

            Why do you think Israel announced they were annexing the West Bank right after the election?

            Ignorant goddamn children spouting off about global politics.

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              5 hours ago

              So first, I can’t actually find anything about this except Smotrich pushing for annexation so do you have a source that says they’re going to go forward with annexation? Now second, Smotrich started yapping about annexing West Bank settlements (not the whole West Bank; if Israel did that they’d have to give Palestinians rights) literally a day or two after the election, meaning he already had plans for something similar before then. You don’t just wake up and start taking steps towards annexing an occupied territory that’s not how that works.

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              9 hours ago

              I mean he is to an extent. Everyone is talking like the fascist project in America is finished, but it’s not and there’s no guarantee they’ll be able to complete it. That said it’s mostly Congress doing the heavy lifting here; there are enough sane Republicans that Trump wouldn’t be able to get away with some of the more outrageous stuff.

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                9 hours ago

                I would love to see the list of Republicans in Congress whose districts/states WEREN’T carried by pro-Trump zealots and who WOULDN’T lose their seats if they went against Trump.

                Hint: it could fit on an index card, double spaced

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                  8 hours ago

                  I mean there were Republicans opposed to one of his appointments (don’t remember who) and you only need four of them to side with the Democrats to get a majority.