Conservation of mass?
Do they understand that producing energy and fertilizer using the bodies of animals is less efficient than producing the same number of calories or mass of nitrates from plants+less-energy-than-is-required-to-raise-the-animal-in-question?
If I remember later I can try to find a chart on this that I might have bookmarked. But the chart basically shows that the amount of calories a cow has to eat to product, say, 100g of meat is 11 times as much. It was a pretty big eye opener for me when I was first going over to veganism.
Using animals as fertilizer is a nessessity brought about by phasing out crop rotations. If we just rotated our fucking crops that would naturally replenish the soil. Instead we have endless fields of corn year after year
This was one of the first things we were taught in school during units on nutrient cycles - the closer to the source of energy, the sun, an organism is in the cycle, the more efficient their utilization of the energy is. I don’t know if I’m taking knowledge of this concept for granted but it’s so simple in my own mind.
I grew up in a poor rural area in the south and first learned trophic levels in 7th grade. I’m certain almost everybody has been exposed to this concept at least by the end of high school
Literally junior high science
I don’t know if it’s all of them, but I know someone who said that veganism is actually more harmful for the planet because plants need pesticides and fertilizer, which kill bugs. It took no effort to challenge them on that at all.
There’s an element of truth here, in that parts of the world have a system where farm animals eat stuff humans can’t, such as wild grass, kitchen waste and straw. But modern ‘factory farms’ do use insane amounts of growth su0lements and medicines, which are just as bad.
Sounds like my coworker who argued that veganism kills more animals than meat does, due to the pest control measures that might be necessary to protect crops.
As if pest control isn’t a thing in the meat industry from the feed crops, to the feed lots, to the barns to the slaughterhouses. They think the cattle that made the steak they’re eating just materialized out of thin air or something and didn’t require a shit ton of energy and resources to grow it.
Yep, that exact point.
What do they think livestock eat?
pesticides and fertilizer!
Education in capitalism is meant to produce workers who can understand things to mindlessly replicate it for work, not people who can think critically.