Hundreds of protesters stormed the Swedish embassy in central Baghdad in the early hours of Thursday morning, scaling its walls and setting it on fire in protest against the expected burning of a Koran in Sweden.
There cannot be topics forbidden to be made fun of in a free society. If we cannot make fun of Muslims and Islam in any way without causing religious riots and violence then current form Islam has no place in a free society.
The difference between Islam and the other monotheistic abrahamic religions is that the older two of the three have had enough time to go through cycles of reformation and ideological modernization, making them somewhat compatible with a modern pluralist society. Islam still insists a bunch of fables from when the book was written are literally true and valid today, and not just apocryphal advice on how to be a decent person.
And before someone brings up the inevitable American evangelicals as comparison, they are equally incompatible. Luckily that scourge is largely confined to the United States and not my problem.
Topics can be forbidden while still allowing for a free society. It’s called the paradox of tolerance and is why Germany bans the free speech of Nazis. The thing about satire of Islam is that the events that get a big reaction like this are not “making fun of Muslims and Islam” but flat-out hate speech. Look at real political cartoonists like Eli Valley and Stan Kelly to see that you can joke about and even be kind of mean to people without calling them pedophiles or burning sacred books. You say that Islam hasn’t had time to become compatible with modern society. What a ridiculous statement contradicted by your own exception. The rise of American Christian fascism as well as the arch-conservative Christians in modern-day Uganda prove that time has nothing to do with how strict a religion is. This is further contradicted by Islamic society being much more progressive in the Medieval era compared to Christian society despite being younger. The fact is, you just hate Muslims.
I think we should not burn Qurans
I think we should not burn buildings.
I agree!
There cannot be topics forbidden to be made fun of in a free society. If we cannot make fun of Muslims and Islam in any way without causing religious riots and violence then current form Islam has no place in a free society. The difference between Islam and the other monotheistic abrahamic religions is that the older two of the three have had enough time to go through cycles of reformation and ideological modernization, making them somewhat compatible with a modern pluralist society. Islam still insists a bunch of fables from when the book was written are literally true and valid today, and not just apocryphal advice on how to be a decent person.
And before someone brings up the inevitable American evangelicals as comparison, they are equally incompatible. Luckily that scourge is largely confined to the United States and not my problem.
Topics can be forbidden while still allowing for a free society. It’s called the paradox of tolerance and is why Germany bans the free speech of Nazis. The thing about satire of Islam is that the events that get a big reaction like this are not “making fun of Muslims and Islam” but flat-out hate speech. Look at real political cartoonists like Eli Valley and Stan Kelly to see that you can joke about and even be kind of mean to people without calling them pedophiles or burning sacred books. You say that Islam hasn’t had time to become compatible with modern society. What a ridiculous statement contradicted by your own exception. The rise of American Christian fascism as well as the arch-conservative Christians in modern-day Uganda prove that time has nothing to do with how strict a religion is. This is further contradicted by Islamic society being much more progressive in the Medieval era compared to Christian society despite being younger. The fact is, you just hate Muslims.
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