Many in Ramallah argue things cannot get any worse but some say US result could add unpredictability to despair

Summary

Palestinians in the West Bank are largely pessimistic about Donald Trump’s re-election, viewing it as unlikely to significantly worsen their already dire situation, though some fear it could embolden Israeli actions.

Trump’s support for Israel’s far-right policies, including the potential dismantling of the UN agency Unrwa and backing of Israeli settlements, could deepen economic hardship and escalate violence against Palestinians.

While some Palestinians worry about increased oppression, others see a Trump presidency as a chance to expose brutal realities, possibly sparking stronger resistance.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      547·
      9 hours ago

      WE ALL OPPOSED THE FUCKING GENOCIDE.

      That doesn’t mean we wanted to invite in ADDITIONAL GENOCIDES IN THE U.S.

      Jesus Christ, I am so tired of seeing people make excuses for not voting to stop someone who you have been given warning sign after warning sign about because you don’t like Kamala Harris.

      • Nougat@fedia.io
        211·
        9 hours ago

        It also means that we didn’t want to make the one genocide they’re always on about even worse.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          284·
          9 hours ago

          Seriously. “Harris is supporting genocide by being part of an administration selling weapons to Israel, so I’ll let the guy who told Netanyahu to finish the job on national TV win.” What the fuck?

          I actually had someone tell me a month or so back that genocide is as bad as it gets and you can’t make it worse once it’s genocide.

          These people will lie to themselves about anything rather than take some fucking responsibility.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            4 hours ago

            I actually had someone tell me a month or so back that genocide is as bad as it gets and you can’t make it worse once it’s genocide

            This was a very common argument I saw. Unfortunately, I think there are people who bought it. It’s so ahistorical, and nobody seems to know anything about the conditions in Germany pre-WW2 (or probably most of the atrocities that the Nazis committed).

            There are levels to this shit, it’s not just an on/off switch.

          • Nougat@fedia.io
            171·
            9 hours ago

            They also wholly disregard that:

            • “Weapons” is not a singular thing. There are defensive weapons, and offensive weapons. There is no method for undoing sales of defensive weapons. Congress says send 'em; they get sent.
            • Offensive weapons can be paused, if said weapons are likely to be used in inhuman ways. In fact, Biden did exactly that – after House Republicans passed a bill to prevent him from doing it. That bill never made the floor of the Democratically controlled Senate.
            • Congress is in charge of sending those weapons, not the president. If someone wants to “both sides” that one, I’m fine with that. But now that it’s looking like all three branches of government are going to be under fascist control, I’m not holding my breath about Congress changing their stance on any weapons sales to Israel, unless that change is MOAR WEPONZ.
      • cicebazna@discuss.onlineEnglish
        172·
        9 hours ago

        Well, what did you expect? ML pretty much flooded this place with genocide Joe nonsense in a very real attempt to crush the west.

    • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      8 hours ago

      How has anyone opposed the genocide given the electoral outcome?

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      93·
      9 hours ago

      Opposing the genocide meant voting for Harris to avoid this exact situation.

      There’s a smallish band of dipshits who care more about shouting about the genocide than stopping it. Not shouting about it (understandable and correct and good) and then stopping it. But actively not stopping it so they can shout.

      The only chance–and it was only a chance–to save the Palestinians, was to keep Captain Dipshit away from the steering wheel and bust Harris’ balls incessantly until she did maybe half the right thing.

      Because that option is better than what they’ve been doomed to now. But you don’t mind that. You have your purity, and that’s what your core value is.

    • cicebazna@discuss.onlineEnglish
      92·
      9 hours ago

      Haha. Parlor pinks doing everything they can to get trump elected now complain about trump being elected. Love it.