It’s a fake argument. They were always voting for Trump. I have a relative that said Biden was too old… She’s still voting for Trump. These people are wrong in the head.
Okay I’ll just say: Y’all deserve Trump. Seriously. If this community is even remotely representative of politically active democrats then y’all had it coming. Why is it that when I’m representing a viewpoint that’s not considered here everyone’s kneejerk reaction is to dismiss that viewpoint and shoot the messenger? No matter how you feel about it the fact that there are people who think that and the fact that they have valid reasons for thinking that remains. Arguing with me about their opinions changes nothing, and neither does mocking them.
Some of us attempt to take reality on reality’s terms, rather than pretend we have national ranked choice voting. The only signal people are sending by voting for a third-party presidential candidate is that they are easily fooled into voting against their own interests. Feel free to organize for your preferred alternative during primaries and local elections, and know that the Republican party is not going implement RCV or give one single fuck about Netanyahu continuing his genocide.
Guess what, whatever country you live in will ABSOLUTELY be impacted if Trump becomes president. Unless you’re in Russia, Iran, or N Korea, it’ll most likely be a negative impact.
Oh so it’s only an important issue for you when it’s convenient, huh? Where’s your genocide comments about Ukraine? What’s happening there is also a genocide, yet the only comments I hear from your ilk is about the Middle East.
The situations in Palestine and Ukraine are markedly different.
Ukraine has received immense support from Western nations since the start of the Russian invasion, i.e., in support of the defense of Ukraine. The democractic party has been in power since the beginning of that conflict as well.
Western nations have been giving support to the standing army of the defending nation, who are facing a professional army.
Palestine has been under seige from the beneficiary of Western support, i.e., in support of the offense of Palestine.
Western nations have given support to the standing army of the offensive nation, who are facing an insurgency who lack the personnel, training, and support systems of a modern professional army.
The civilian death counts in Palestine have been staggering. Over 44,000 civilians have been killed in Palestine in a little over a year. In Ukraine, over 11,000 civillians have been killed, despite the Russian invasion occuring in February of 2022, 2 years and 9 months ago.
The distinctions between the two situations are apparent, which is why people are being more vocal about Palestine.
I would say nothing about either of the conflicts has been convenient for most people, but both matters are important, albeit for different reasons.
Also, on a personal note, ilk? I didn’t realize we were in the Hog’s Head.
Why does Trump always get a pass?
It’s like everyone against him has to be an utter saint, and one wrong move? Welp, voting for Trump, I guess.
And yes, strategically… this makes no sense for anyone who cares about what’s happening in Israel.
It’s a fake argument. They were always voting for Trump. I have a relative that said Biden was too old… She’s still voting for Trump. These people are wrong in the head.
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“Harris does nothing for me, so I’ll vote for the guy who’ll have me killed.” Makes perfect sense.
Okay I’ll just say: Y’all deserve Trump. Seriously. If this community is even remotely representative of politically active democrats then y’all had it coming. Why is it that when I’m representing a viewpoint that’s not considered here everyone’s kneejerk reaction is to dismiss that viewpoint and shoot the messenger? No matter how you feel about it the fact that there are people who think that and the fact that they have valid reasons for thinking that remains. Arguing with me about their opinions changes nothing, and neither does mocking them.
Some of us attempt to take reality on reality’s terms, rather than pretend we have national ranked choice voting. The only signal people are sending by voting for a third-party presidential candidate is that they are easily fooled into voting against their own interests. Feel free to organize for your preferred alternative during primaries and local elections, and know that the Republican party is not going implement RCV or give one single fuck about Netanyahu continuing his genocide.
Guess what, whatever country you live in will ABSOLUTELY be impacted if Trump becomes president. Unless you’re in Russia, Iran, or N Korea, it’ll most likely be a negative impact.
Also the democratic party has been in power, enabling the genocide for over a year.
Oh so it’s only an important issue for you when it’s convenient, huh? Where’s your genocide comments about Ukraine? What’s happening there is also a genocide, yet the only comments I hear from your ilk is about the Middle East.
The situations in Palestine and Ukraine are markedly different.
Ukraine has received immense support from Western nations since the start of the Russian invasion, i.e., in support of the defense of Ukraine. The democractic party has been in power since the beginning of that conflict as well.
Western nations have been giving support to the standing army of the defending nation, who are facing a professional army.
Palestine has been under seige from the beneficiary of Western support, i.e., in support of the offense of Palestine.
Western nations have given support to the standing army of the offensive nation, who are facing an insurgency who lack the personnel, training, and support systems of a modern professional army.
The civilian death counts in Palestine have been staggering. Over 44,000 civilians have been killed in Palestine in a little over a year. In Ukraine, over 11,000 civillians have been killed, despite the Russian invasion occuring in February of 2022, 2 years and 9 months ago.
The distinctions between the two situations are apparent, which is why people are being more vocal about Palestine.
I would say nothing about either of the conflicts has been convenient for most people, but both matters are important, albeit for different reasons.
Also, on a personal note, ilk? I didn’t realize we were in the Hog’s Head.