Let me clarify a few things. I’ve been accused of all kinds of things over the past several days.
I’ve been called a Russian troll, a MAGA supporter, and even accused of being “proud to be aligned with KKK grand wizard David Duke,” which is especially ridiculous since my mother is black. I’ve also been accused of not voting because people assume I’m not in the U.S., of trolling simply because I disagree with someone, and of posting “every 17 minutes,” which is just laughable considering the timestamps are right there for anyone to see.
I’ve been accused of channeling “punchable face energy,” and told that single word that comes out of my mouth is “dripping with disingenuity.” And having multiple accounts. Of being a team of people. Russian words are directed my way.
When I post links to back up my points, I get mocked for “acting like a 12-year-old” just for answering a question and posting links. If I don’t respond, I get accused of ignoring people, and when I do respond, it’s apparently too much and “only a bot” could reply so frequently. Or that I am craving attention. or that I am “arguing in bad faith.”
I’ve been asked to tell people why I post something, and if I answer, they say I’m lying or they say “Oh your copy/pasta standard response.” If I don’t, then they say variations of, “Because we all know the true answer, you’re so transparent!”
I’ve even had my name mentioned in threads for articles I didn’t even post, with people mocking me for “losing my touch on posting” or joking about “summoning me.”
Some users keep daily stats on my posts and downvotes, updating them obsessively and put it in every comment thread of my posts. If I try to explain myself, I’m accused of playing the victim or having “main character syndrome.”
Despite all this, some people still refuse to block me because they claim they want to “make others aware” of me.
One guy just posted four paragraphs of AI-generated nonsense in response to a post I made. When someone asked him why he did that, he admitted that he did it just to see if he could get a reaction to me and seemed disappointed that I didn’t reply to the comment.
So, no, I’m not trolling. It’s just that you’re annoyed by me. There’s a difference. Trolling is posting stuff TO annoy you–I don’t do that. You being annoyed by me, is just you being annoyed by me. I have no control over that. And you can block me too.
In fact, I deal with trolling and baiting daily, but I’m still here engaging in the conversation.
This community shouldn’t be just for people who are liked or who only post articles that everyone agrees with. This community is a political news community, it’s not a “Pro-Harris Articles Only!” community. The number pro-Harris articles here far far outnumber any other articles. So I’m not spamming. I’m posting articles you don’t like.
And for the record, I HAVE posted pro-Harris articles and anti-Trump articles, and anti-third party articles, and they get downvoted too! Because people just downvote any article posted by me, regardless of content.
This community is supposed to be a place for discussion, and I think we need to keep it that way, without resorting to personal attacks or creating an echo chamber. I’m not the one resorting to personal attacks. Take a look at the links I provided.
I get no preferential treatment from the mods. They treat me just like everyone else. They have removed comments of mine, and article postings of mine if they didn’t agree with the source.
If they feel Newsweek isn’t a reliable source because of the information you have given them, then I won’t post articles from Newsweek any longer. It’s that simple. Thank you! :)
EDIT: Actually, I’ve received a lot of cool, supportive DMs and even a couple public comments, so it turns out more people care about what I have to say than I thought, and not everyone wants this to be an echo chamber! Yay!
posting “every 17 minutes,” which is just laughable considering the timestamps are right there for anyone to see.
Lol because if someone mentions an average rate versus doing some complex analysis of your use patterns, they’re obviously lying. Because that’s right folks: math lies!
Average rates are fine. I don’t mind that. But actually some people think it’s literal and I’ve had to steer them back to the fact that it’s an average, not a literal thing. So I agree with you. Thank you! :)
Does it matter if they leave out the word “average”? What difference does it make?
You are sealioning here, once again. The point stands that you submit things to Lemmy far more than an average user would, and almost all focused on the election. The only other point they are making there stands also – that all of this activity has been concentrated into the two months leading up to the election.
I guess now you’ll sealion again, correcting me that it’s actually been 62 days already or something else that doesn’t matter in the least.
This sounds extremely whiny and devoid of any self awareness. It would be a lot easier to think about why you’re getting all the pushback than it would be to write countless essays about how innocent you are and how mean everyone else is.
Dude brought receipts that had nothing to do with the topic at hand.
The issue I was raising was that he posts non-stop, and that a lot of it is transparently and objectively false. This post is a great example. He then brought receipts about how people were mean to him, and that it’s okay to provide true information that doesn’t match the bias people expect to see. Neither of which is related to what I was saying.
You say “transparently and objectively false.” But they are from recognized news orgs, and the one you had a particular problem with was Newsweek. And I also said that if the mods disallowed that source, I’d stop posting articles from there.
Never once has it crossed your mind to self reflect or stop pissing people off. Probably because the only reason you use the platform is to piss people off.
It’s his fault people are pissed? People don’t like posts or comments critical of Harris. That’s not his problem. It’s a community for political discussion
Aww, someone is a bit in his feelings, isn’t he? And such a roll call of the abuse you’ve had to endure! Truly harrowing!
But there seems to be something totally lacking. Anything that showed you had the slightest bit of self awareness. You claim no motive for sharing, but just about everyone else sees what you’re doing. You claim innocence, “I didn’t write the article” but when asked repeatedly to explain why you found it interesting, you have literally never answered, only saying “I don’t have to explain anything!”. Which is true, in so far as when you don’t explain your motivations, people will fill in the blanks.
Everyone else here who is a regular or even occasional poster has “tells” of one type or another. We’re human, and by definition that means we have biases. I generally can often guess who posted something without even looking at the user name, and that’s fine. And that’s just as true of other people guessing when I’ve posted something. The rest of us engage with posts and comments in a way that matches our personal views.
But supposedly not you. You claim no bias, no agenda and spend most of your time in the comments being disingenuous - not only about your agenda (which is plain to see), but in claiming you have no motive for what you do. That’s not genuine human behavior, which is probably why there’s so many who believe you’re a bot. Your behavior in posting and commenting falls smack dab in the uncanny valley. The only other explanation is that you’re not being honest.
As for the rest, please don’t pretend that you haven’t been trolling yourself. The modlog is evidence enough for that.
You keep acting like it’s the articles you post that are the problem when it’s your behavior in the comments that makes people angry. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a genuine conversation with you involved. It’s obfuscation, sealioning, deflection, and playing the victim.
And don’t do your usual “Just block me if you don’t like it!” When people see someone pollute a shared communal space, they should call it out, not turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise it’s just another example of the Tragedy of the Commons.
You have every right to keep posting (as long as the mods are willing to shoulder the extra work you create), but if you do, do it honestly. Stand up for what you believe in, even if folks say you’re wrong. Be an advocate for ideas, people, and movements. Explain why you think what you do - the only cost is the potential for someone to change your mind, and the benefit is you might change someone else’s mind.
But don’t be dishonest about why you’re doing whatever it is you think you’re doing here. Don’t hide behind “I didn’t write the article” and “I don’t have to explain anything to anyone”. You might still get downvoted to oblivion, but you might not.
I honestly at this point can’t tell how much is intentional trolling and how much is that he just doesn’t know any better/doesn’t want to know any better. If it’s the latter, I do feel sorry for him a little as he’s probably neurodivergent like myself but doesn’t have any tools to deal with it or even awareness of the problem. But then he’ll do something that’ll convince me it’s all an act and he just enjoys playing the heel.
It is a public forum. You expressed your opinion and I expressed mine.
As I mentioned earlier, if the mods decide that Newsweek is no longer considered a reliable source, I’m more than happy to stop posting articles from Newsweek here.
Hey friend, thanks for that. They can be mean and hateful, but not even close to enough to make me leave. We need you here too. All good, bother. Thank you! :)
Let me clarify one thing. You are a troll. You search the web to find click bait articles from sources that will not get you banned to troll people. That is who you are. You can say whatever you want and weave within the rules, but we know what you are doing. We will continue to down vote your articles so everyone knows they are click bait garbage.
Well you think they are dumb. But that’s your opinion. And if you’re tired of me and my articles, then why wouldn’t you just block me? That way you don’t see me or my articles. Genuine question.
if you don’t like the community, why don’t you just leave? rhetorical question.
i’ll answer for you: because you want a voice in the community. Same with people who disagree with you. once they block you, they lose their voice in disagreeing with you.
Because I like the community. I just think a lot of people want it to be an echo chamber, so they get mean and hateful. But not nearly mean and hateful enough to make me leave. So all good! Thank you! :)
I honestly thought I had blocked you. I guess I just blocked your dumb community that you made as an excuse to post more spam. I can deal with seeing a few of your posts around, it’s funny watching everyone dunk on you.
I have always said people should vote for who they want to vote for. So you are just totally incorrect.
Do you think that if I post a news article on Lemmy that it’s suddenly going to cause masses of people to suddenly switch their vote and vote for Trump?!
Do you realize how small Lemmy is? Especially compared to the news orgs that are publishing the articles that I post links to? Plus Lemmy is overwhelmingly pro-Harris, and many hate anyone who goes against the narrative.
So how is me posting a news article for a news org, trying to talk people into voting for Trump?! How influential do you think Lemmy is?! lol
Let me clarify a few things. I’ve been accused of all kinds of things over the past several days.
I’ve been called a Russian troll, a MAGA supporter, and even accused of being “proud to be aligned with KKK grand wizard David Duke,” which is especially ridiculous since my mother is black. I’ve also been accused of not voting because people assume I’m not in the U.S., of trolling simply because I disagree with someone, and of posting “every 17 minutes,” which is just laughable considering the timestamps are right there for anyone to see.
I’ve been accused of channeling “punchable face energy,” and told that single word that comes out of my mouth is “dripping with disingenuity.” And having multiple accounts. Of being a team of people. Russian words are directed my way.
When I post links to back up my points, I get mocked for “acting like a 12-year-old” just for answering a question and posting links. If I don’t respond, I get accused of ignoring people, and when I do respond, it’s apparently too much and “only a bot” could reply so frequently. Or that I am craving attention. or that I am “arguing in bad faith.”
I’ve been asked to tell people why I post something, and if I answer, they say I’m lying or they say “Oh your copy/pasta standard response.” If I don’t, then they say variations of, “Because we all know the true answer, you’re so transparent!”
I’ve even had my name mentioned in threads for articles I didn’t even post, with people mocking me for “losing my touch on posting” or joking about “summoning me.”
Some users keep daily stats on my posts and downvotes, updating them obsessively and put it in every comment thread of my posts. If I try to explain myself, I’m accused of playing the victim or having “main character syndrome.”
Despite all this, some people still refuse to block me because they claim they want to “make others aware” of me.
One guy just posted four paragraphs of AI-generated nonsense in response to a post I made. When someone asked him why he did that, he admitted that he did it just to see if he could get a reaction to me and seemed disappointed that I didn’t reply to the comment.
All of this in just the last few days.
Here’s a fun look, start here. People mocking me for an article that I didn’t even post: https://lemmy.world/comment/12907842
Under same article that I didn’t post, mad because I am not engaging them: https://lemmy.world/comment/12911504
More people mocking me and using russian reference, for yet another article I didn’t even post: https://lemmy.world/comment/12916672
Mod log of comments removed: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
So, no, I’m not trolling. It’s just that you’re annoyed by me. There’s a difference. Trolling is posting stuff TO annoy you–I don’t do that. You being annoyed by me, is just you being annoyed by me. I have no control over that. And you can block me too.
In fact, I deal with trolling and baiting daily, but I’m still here engaging in the conversation.
This community shouldn’t be just for people who are liked or who only post articles that everyone agrees with. This community is a political news community, it’s not a “Pro-Harris Articles Only!” community. The number pro-Harris articles here far far outnumber any other articles. So I’m not spamming. I’m posting articles you don’t like.
And for the record, I HAVE posted pro-Harris articles and anti-Trump articles, and anti-third party articles, and they get downvoted too! Because people just downvote any article posted by me, regardless of content.
This community is supposed to be a place for discussion, and I think we need to keep it that way, without resorting to personal attacks or creating an echo chamber. I’m not the one resorting to personal attacks. Take a look at the links I provided.
I get no preferential treatment from the mods. They treat me just like everyone else. They have removed comments of mine, and article postings of mine if they didn’t agree with the source.
If they feel Newsweek isn’t a reliable source because of the information you have given them, then I won’t post articles from Newsweek any longer. It’s that simple. Thank you! :)
EDIT: Actually, I’ve received a lot of cool, supportive DMs and even a couple public comments, so it turns out more people care about what I have to say than I thought, and not everyone wants this to be an echo chamber! Yay!
Just a downvote and no reply? Wow, I really must have touched a nerve.
Lol because if someone mentions an average rate versus doing some complex analysis of your use patterns, they’re obviously lying. Because that’s right folks: math lies!
Average rates are fine. I don’t mind that. But actually some people think it’s literal and I’ve had to steer them back to the fact that it’s an average, not a literal thing. So I agree with you. Thank you! :)
Does it matter if they leave out the word “average”? What difference does it make?
You are sealioning here, once again. The point stands that you submit things to Lemmy far more than an average user would, and almost all focused on the election. The only other point they are making there stands also – that all of this activity has been concentrated into the two months leading up to the election.
I guess now you’ll sealion again, correcting me that it’s actually been 62 days already or something else that doesn’t matter in the least.
This sounds extremely whiny and devoid of any self awareness. It would be a lot easier to think about why you’re getting all the pushback than it would be to write countless essays about how innocent you are and how mean everyone else is.
You’re proving one of my points. Thank you, friend! :)
One of your points is that you have no self-reflection skills?
How is it whiny? Dude brought receipts
Dude brought receipts that had nothing to do with the topic at hand.
The issue I was raising was that he posts non-stop, and that a lot of it is transparently and objectively false. This post is a great example. He then brought receipts about how people were mean to him, and that it’s okay to provide true information that doesn’t match the bias people expect to see. Neither of which is related to what I was saying.
You say “transparently and objectively false.” But they are from recognized news orgs, and the one you had a particular problem with was Newsweek. And I also said that if the mods disallowed that source, I’d stop posting articles from there.
TIL whining means you can’t provide “evidence”
Amen brother! I’m so glad that self reflection can never hold you back! Now you get back out there and spread the message of the Jesus-satan!!!1
Aw, someone is upset! They really struck a nerve with their comment, didn’t they?
Nope, just making a note of it. None of this is even close to making me want to leave.
I know the whole point of these comments is to push me out, but I’m not going anywhere. Thank you! :)
Never once has it crossed your mind to self reflect or stop pissing people off. Probably because the only reason you use the platform is to piss people off.
It’s his fault people are pissed? People don’t like posts or comments critical of Harris. That’s not his problem. It’s a community for political discussion
I guess it’s also your fault for defending the trolling behavior
Bullies blaming the victim for being easy to bully instead of just stopping.
Thank you!!
Thank you!!
Aww, someone is a bit in his feelings, isn’t he? And such a roll call of the abuse you’ve had to endure! Truly harrowing!
But there seems to be something totally lacking. Anything that showed you had the slightest bit of self awareness. You claim no motive for sharing, but just about everyone else sees what you’re doing. You claim innocence, “I didn’t write the article” but when asked repeatedly to explain why you found it interesting, you have literally never answered, only saying “I don’t have to explain anything!”. Which is true, in so far as when you don’t explain your motivations, people will fill in the blanks.
Everyone else here who is a regular or even occasional poster has “tells” of one type or another. We’re human, and by definition that means we have biases. I generally can often guess who posted something without even looking at the user name, and that’s fine. And that’s just as true of other people guessing when I’ve posted something. The rest of us engage with posts and comments in a way that matches our personal views.
But supposedly not you. You claim no bias, no agenda and spend most of your time in the comments being disingenuous - not only about your agenda (which is plain to see), but in claiming you have no motive for what you do. That’s not genuine human behavior, which is probably why there’s so many who believe you’re a bot. Your behavior in posting and commenting falls smack dab in the uncanny valley. The only other explanation is that you’re not being honest.
As for the rest, please don’t pretend that you haven’t been trolling yourself. The modlog is evidence enough for that.
You keep acting like it’s the articles you post that are the problem when it’s your behavior in the comments that makes people angry. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a genuine conversation with you involved. It’s obfuscation, sealioning, deflection, and playing the victim.
And don’t do your usual “Just block me if you don’t like it!” When people see someone pollute a shared communal space, they should call it out, not turn a blind eye to it. Otherwise it’s just another example of the Tragedy of the Commons.
You have every right to keep posting (as long as the mods are willing to shoulder the extra work you create), but if you do, do it honestly. Stand up for what you believe in, even if folks say you’re wrong. Be an advocate for ideas, people, and movements. Explain why you think what you do - the only cost is the potential for someone to change your mind, and the benefit is you might change someone else’s mind.
But don’t be dishonest about why you’re doing whatever it is you think you’re doing here. Don’t hide behind “I didn’t write the article” and “I don’t have to explain anything to anyone”. You might still get downvoted to oblivion, but you might not.
Thank you for explaining exactly how I feel. This dude is a turd.
I honestly at this point can’t tell how much is intentional trolling and how much is that he just doesn’t know any better/doesn’t want to know any better. If it’s the latter, I do feel sorry for him a little as he’s probably neurodivergent like myself but doesn’t have any tools to deal with it or even awareness of the problem. But then he’ll do something that’ll convince me it’s all an act and he just enjoys playing the heel.
It’s all trolling. 100% of this person’s actions when it comes to politics are trolling.
It’s public forum, and I can express my opinions or ask questions even if you may disagree with them. As many here do. And as you have done just now.
Thank you, friend! :)
And nothing I said implied otherwise.
It is a public forum. You expressed your opinion and I expressed mine.
As I mentioned earlier, if the mods decide that Newsweek is no longer considered a reliable source, I’m more than happy to stop posting articles from Newsweek here.
Thanks, friend! :)
Keep on doing what you do. Without your posts this is just a boring “vote Harris” community
Hey friend, thanks for that. They can be mean and hateful, but not even close to enough to make me leave. We need you here too. All good, bother. Thank you! :)
Let me clarify one thing. You are a troll. You search the web to find click bait articles from sources that will not get you banned to troll people. That is who you are. You can say whatever you want and weave within the rules, but we know what you are doing. We will continue to down vote your articles so everyone knows they are click bait garbage.
Turns out that when you spam dumb articles all day, people start to get sick of it. Weird.
Well you think they are dumb. But that’s your opinion. And if you’re tired of me and my articles, then why wouldn’t you just block me? That way you don’t see me or my articles. Genuine question.
if you don’t like the community, why don’t you just leave? rhetorical question.
i’ll answer for you: because you want a voice in the community. Same with people who disagree with you. once they block you, they lose their voice in disagreeing with you.
Because I like the community. I just think a lot of people want it to be an echo chamber, so they get mean and hateful. But not nearly mean and hateful enough to make me leave. So all good! Thank you! :)
I honestly thought I had blocked you. I guess I just blocked your dumb community that you made as an excuse to post more spam. I can deal with seeing a few of your posts around, it’s funny watching everyone dunk on you.
Hey, you do you, man. All good. Thank you! :)
I love the toxicly positive response accompanied by a downvote. It’s so you. Never change.
Well, wait. Actually do change. Just stop trying to convince Lemmings of whatever you’re trying to convince them. It’s not working.
What exactly do you think I’m trying to convince them of? Thank you! :)
To not vote or to vote for Trump. It’s fairly obvious. Maybe you yourself don’t even realize.
I’ve already voted and I didn’t vote for Trump.
I have always said people should vote for who they want to vote for. So you are just totally incorrect.
Do you think that if I post a news article on Lemmy that it’s suddenly going to cause masses of people to suddenly switch their vote and vote for Trump?!
Do you realize how small Lemmy is? Especially compared to the news orgs that are publishing the articles that I post links to? Plus Lemmy is overwhelmingly pro-Harris, and many hate anyone who goes against the narrative.
So how is me posting a news article for a news org, trying to talk people into voting for Trump?! How influential do you think Lemmy is?! lol
Thank you, friend! :)
Aman brother! We’re just worshilling the devil-jesus! Something something DuPpOlY!