• OsrsNeedsF2P
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    7 hours ago

    My issue is that whoever defines what “dumb” is becomes the defacto dictator. I could choose a set of values that align with what I think are important - Someone who does well in an IQ test, someone who understands the importance of being physically fit - and then all of a sudden, people with disabilities become marginalized.

    I asked you to define “dumb” because that definition needs to be crafted extremely well. The fact you didn’t realize this makes me think you’re dumb. Maybe you shouldn’t participate in society.

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      6 hours ago

      “I asked you to define “dumb” because that definition needs to be crafted extremely well”

      that answer makes me think the same of you. there is no one size fits all rule. people need to start thinking in chaotic good terms. you know the people that shouldn’t be allowed to participate when you see them. sociopaths have led us to believe that we as individuals do not have the capacity to make judgements so that that they can create abusive laws. start being a village again.

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        5 hours ago

        You literally said

        dumb people shouldn’t participate in society.

        And then followed up with

        there is no one size fits all rule [to define dumb people]

        So you think dumb people shouldn’t participate in society, but you also don’t think you can define who dumb people are.

        sociopaths have led us to believe that we as individuals do not have the capacity to make judgements so that that they can create abusive laws. start being a village again.

        I appreciate the sentiment, but what happens when someone starts to accumulate power, and there’s no laws to stop them? You think people are going to rise up? You think the people who rise up won’t become the next dictator?

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          2 hours ago

          ok. i see you struggle to think for yourself, so let me try to define dumb people for you.

          • lack of critical thinking skills
          • lack of empathy
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            2 hours ago

            Your lack of ability to see the flaw in your argument means you have no critical thinking skills, and your insult towards me means you have no empathy.

            As the person in charge of deciding who is dumb, I have deemed you dumb, and you can no longer participate in society. You have now been evicted from your house.

            Do you see the problem with your idea, yet?

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              1 hour ago

              nope, but you’re starting to come around.

              you see, i’m not going to let you do that. i’m going to fight back, which is what any reasonable person should do.

              you see, in the end, there is no right or wrong. the critical thinking and empathy are completely arbitrary ideas that I PERSONALLY think are important. i gave importance to those ideas. i will fight to defend those ideas.

              ultimately, there are only winners and losers. it’s my hope that there are enough people who also think critical thinking and empathy are important things worth fighting for that we can beat the sociopaths who don’t value those ideals. but that’s where i’m at. i’m ready to solve the question of humanity’s identity once and for all. my hope is that the people who think like me can achieve a final victory over the assholes, BUT i’d just as soon see all of the good guys die and leave this world to the sociopaths than continue this struggle for another century or however long it takes us to kill ourselves.