Before I respond, I want to make it clear what the Israeli government is doing is horrible.
But how can you call your solution a simple answer?
If the US stopped funding Israel, would the surrounding counties just let it exist? Israel is not simply defending itself at this point, but would it be able to if the funding was ended?
I suspect we would see a genocide of the Israelis instead.
This whole situation has barely been balanced for decades, and this genocide is sickening, but I’m not smart enough to see a way for the US to stop all killing.
How do you imagine things would turn out in the region if funding was cut?
Decapitation strike against the criminal Israeli regime would be great. At a minimum, enforcing a no fly zone over the entire area, along with missile defense for Palestine and Lebanon.
Would we then move the Israeli citizens to another part of the world?
This still seems like a tangled mess.
I agree she should do everything we can to end not just the genocide, but also the power struggle—preferably with minimal harm to anyone—but I see no indication any of it will be easy or simple. I think the answer is really hundreds of answers.
Where’s your concern for Palestinians and Lebanese? Where did we move all the Afrikaners after apartheid? Some left and the rest had to learn how to live as equals with the people around them-- something Israelis have never had to do.
Related questions: Would Israelis be given the chance to integrate or, would the newly shifted power dynamic just lead to Israel’s neighbours perpetrating the same horrors against Israel?
Basically, have these differences not gone on long enough that almost any of their neighbours would be willing to return the favour?
In what ways would this paralell the end of apartheid?
What does peace look like once Israel ends hostilities and the US cuts off supplies?
It’s actually much simpler than you’re making it out to be. The US doesn’t have to stop funding Israel entirely, but conditions can be put on the aid that it won’t come if war crimes are committed with it. What, we can stop Ukraine using our missiles to strike inside Russia but we can’t stop Israel from starting shit with Lebanon et al? Please, take this “sure, buddy”, positively dripping in the finest sarcasm.
are we willing to cut off funding if Israel doesn’t meet the conditions?
Yes, that is part of the solution. If not, we’re not doing what I said, we’re just doing what we’re doing now.
There would of course be more to it, but that one lever would remove the option to kill indiscriminately. You might be surprised how quickly Israel would stop shooting if they suddenly had an ammo counter to watch and the only solutions available are diplomatic.
Thank you, I strive for consistency and reason in my thinking - sometimes I even succeed 😂 I appreciate you engaging in good faith, this was a pleasant exchange.
Ok, then what is the simple, easy answer?
The US to stop funding genocide would be a nice start.
Before I respond, I want to make it clear what the Israeli government is doing is horrible.
But how can you call your solution a simple answer?
If the US stopped funding Israel, would the surrounding counties just let it exist? Israel is not simply defending itself at this point, but would it be able to if the funding was ended?
I suspect we would see a genocide of the Israelis instead.
This whole situation has barely been balanced for decades, and this genocide is sickening, but I’m not smart enough to see a way for the US to stop all killing.
How do you imagine things would turn out in the region if funding was cut?
Israel is a failed colonialist experiment that needs to end.
Is there a simple, easy way to do that?
Decapitation strike against the criminal Israeli regime would be great. At a minimum, enforcing a no fly zone over the entire area, along with missile defense for Palestine and Lebanon.
Would we then move the Israeli citizens to another part of the world?
This still seems like a tangled mess.
I agree she should do everything we can to end not just the genocide, but also the power struggle—preferably with minimal harm to anyone—but I see no indication any of it will be easy or simple. I think the answer is really hundreds of answers.
Where’s your concern for Palestinians and Lebanese? Where did we move all the Afrikaners after apartheid? Some left and the rest had to learn how to live as equals with the people around them-- something Israelis have never had to do.
Related questions: Would Israelis be given the chance to integrate or, would the newly shifted power dynamic just lead to Israel’s neighbours perpetrating the same horrors against Israel?
Basically, have these differences not gone on long enough that almost any of their neighbours would be willing to return the favour?
In what ways would this paralell the end of apartheid?
What does peace look like once Israel ends hostilities and the US cuts off supplies?
Your questions make this situation seem even more complicated and difficult than I first thought.
They wouldn’t be forced to leave, they would be forced to integrate with society.
How would that work?
It’s actually much simpler than you’re making it out to be. The US doesn’t have to stop funding Israel entirely, but conditions can be put on the aid that it won’t come if war crimes are committed with it. What, we can stop Ukraine using our missiles to strike inside Russia but we can’t stop Israel from starting shit with Lebanon et al? Please, take this “sure, buddy”, positively dripping in the finest sarcasm.
That does sound like it could be effective, but I doubt it’s all that’s needed.
Also, are we willing to cut off funding if Israel doesn’t meet the conditions?
Yes, that is part of the solution. If not, we’re not doing what I said, we’re just doing what we’re doing now.
There would of course be more to it, but that one lever would remove the option to kill indiscriminately. You might be surprised how quickly Israel would stop shooting if they suddenly had an ammo counter to watch and the only solutions available are diplomatic.
Sounds like a consistent and reasonable plan.
Thank you, I strive for consistency and reason in my thinking - sometimes I even succeed 😂 I appreciate you engaging in good faith, this was a pleasant exchange.