Also outs your report publicly, nice !
And Lemmy has an issue with it’s backend implementation which sometimes causes multiple copies of a comment being posted without the posters knowledge.
It then gets flagged as spam and the poster banned. Ask me how I know.
how do you know?
I searched for the issue when it happened to me and saw a bug report for it with the Lemmy devs confirming.
how do you know?
how do you know?
As someone who implement a Lemmy client it might be a client side problem. If the server is struggling you will time out when sending the comment. If the client side has any sort of retry logic it will send the comment again. This can cause the comment to be posted multiple times. There might be a bug on the server as well but I know for sure it can be caused by the client.
It’s what you are describing, and it’s not a client problem. It’s impossible for a client to solve. You can’t tell whether a timed out request succeeded or not.
Idempotent network requests are a standard feature of many APIs - sending the same request multiple times should result in only one action being performed, but Lemmy doesn’t support them yet.
So yes, it’s “caused” by retries, but the bug is that the backend doesn’t properly support retries. Clients don’t do anything wrong.
It could/should be handled by the server but it’s technically possible for the client to make due without it. You would need to handle it very carefully. For instance on timeouts, you can issue a get request to see if the comment posted. If it did then you do not issue another post.
Sure, that would work, but it’s a hacky solution, and involves needing to send more requests in a scenario where requests are already unreliable.
They should do what Reddit does and by default make a 5 second rate limit of sending posts and comments, the first one gets accepted, the next ones get rejected within the 5 second ratelimit.
Another popular solution I see is to have the client generate a UUID when posting. Then the server can very easily tell if a request is a duplicate.
I’ve seen this concept called idempotency tokens. I thought it was common but a quick search didn’t find any articles on it so maybe the name is not that common.
Nonce, maybe?
Nonce is the opposite. It’s never supposed to be used more than once, right?
Yeah, that’s the proper fix.
It doesn’t solve the problem of your comment request timing out after waiting 30 seconds in a spotty mobile connection. Now that it timed out, you don’t know if it was actually posted or not. A proper API would not post duplicate comments in response to retries of a request that already succeeded (without the client knowing).
That’s a good point, I like @idunnololz@lemmy.world solution better. Make the request have it’s own identifier and if one goes through disregard the rest.
how do you know?
I did have this happen a few times early on, about a year ago, but haven’t seen it in a while. I’m hoping they fixed some of those bugs.
I’ve has it happen randomly but not recently
Well shit. At the same time the ban hammer seems a bit easy both ways :') Like you can at least look at the poster’s history…
It was reverted when I messaged the mod that banned me, but obviously not a great situation.
Weird how reddit and lemmy have the exact same issue regarding that.
CLM - sounds like @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world needs to understand the tools a bit more given how active they are.
FlyingSquid needs to be booted from everything they mod.
FlyingSquid is a pathetic human being, who seems to have little else in their life than banning anyone they disagree with. So, just a reddit mod. Question is, why would Lemmy have a chance to grow if it insists on having the same shitty structure as reddit, only with a fraction of a fraction of content that’s available on reddit.
Most of Lemmy.World is ran by Liberal Zionists who ban anyone that clashes with their world view.
It’s not a FlyingSquid problem, all of their major communities suffer from these power tripping bastards.
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They’re religious zealots of the worst variety, they deserve nothing when they commit to such a mindset.
This isn’t a religious conflict any more than Apartheid South Africa was a religious conflict. The PLO was secular for most of its existence, the PLFP still is.
Most of the world’s Zionists are Christians living in America and Europe. Arab Jews in Israel are treated as second-class citizens, Israel had a history of sterilizing African Jews until like 2013. Meanwhile Christians living in Gaza and the West Bank are targeted by Israel just like Muslims.
Israel is a settler colonial project, religion is just a convenient excuse for imperialism.
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This is so mask-off it makes me question if you even own a mask in the first place.
beep beep beep
Turns out I’ve blocked this user already. Are they a mod?
Apparently so? They’re terminally online so it’s disappointing they don’t understand Lemmy better. Had it been almost any other user I wouldn’t have recognized the name at all.
They’re terminally online
It’s funny you say that. I have them tagged exactly as that after some comment thread they were in. Since I tagged them, it’s unbelievable how often posts and comments from them show up in my feed
Turns out me too, seems like they’re just a shit person.
Is that person a mod? I blocked them and my lemmy experience has been way better.
Same. Literally the only person I’ve blocked. I also made sure to leave every community they mod. Certainly a vibe I could do without.
This is exactly what I did when I saw them abuse their powers.
The only way to vote on bad mods is not to use their communities where they have power
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looks like you made nine hundred comments in a year. i can scroll past that. but either the counter is broken or flying squid has managed over fifty thousand
That 50k number may be accurate. I see them comment everywhere. They honestly may be one of the most active users on Lemmy.
I think PicardManeuver is more active, at least for posting fun things.
It’s nice to have our own GallowBoob. Who is going to be our very own Unidan
PTB, (or maybe just “clueless bastard”?): Ye publicly outing your report because they don’t understand lemmy is pretty bad.
PTB, publicly outing reports and trying to intimidate them is not cool, if you want to discuss someone’s reports with them, do it in their DMs.
Also here’s a tip for any admin or mod wishing to discuss the report with someone. Quote the report you’re addressing. I can’t see my own reports, so if an admin or mod wanted to discuss the last reports I made, it’s possible I would have to think really hard to remember what he was talking about, or just flat out not remember. Because I do make a lot of reports, unfortunately, as there is a lot of problematic content and users out there.
Edit: I did make an issue in the Lemmy GitHub requesting this feature, so if you agree that this could be useful I suggest you go express the desire for such a feature over there. I included being able to edit and delete reports, but if that’s too much at least the ability to read my own reports I’ve sent.
Example of a DM that a Mod or admin could use to address reports with someone
Text from report
(can include multiple reports here with gaps between them as needed)
[content of their message addressing the report to the user]
What’s wrong with publicly outing reports, assuming the mod doesn’t mentioning the reporter by name? It allows more people to understand why action was or wasn’t taken.
Silence! You dare question a mod of my abilities? Banned!
You jest, but many mods do actually have this mindset. It’s unreal
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“What the hell, why was my comment removed?”
*Looks up rule 7*
“Be nice”
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The called out mod specifically is the worst culprit. I guarantee if their mod privileges were revoked 85% of the bad rep .world gets would vanish.
.world has a bad rep?
Yeah, but I’m not convinced it’s anyone in particular to blame. I think it’s mostly because it’s the biggest instance. That’s just my take. I don’t necessarily think the folks you’re responding to would agree.
I think a lot of instances have a bad rep with users of at least one instance just because so many instances are ideologically similar.
That’s what I believed it to be. Still better than .ml which is where I was before.
it’s where most people flocked to during Da Great Reddit Exodus, so there’s a lot of latent redditor behavior there. Anecdotally, my Lemmy experience has gotten significantly better after I started blocking every .world channel on sight.
Look at the users post history, they’ll randomly accuse users who aren’t frothing at the mouth to invade China or expressing enough hatred of the USSR of supporting genocide. Do you really think they’re insufficiently anticommunist?
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I’m sure many people who are survivors of natural disasters like fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, and the like, as well as unnatural disasters like wars have lost their photos and indeed most of their childhood belongings.
And what the fuck does that have to do with parents doing nude photographs of their kids for completely non sexual reasons?
What do you mean what the fuck does it have to do with the situation, you made a broad general statement about how people who don’t have photo albums or not thinking they have them must having been “too young for photo albums”. I pointed out that it’s wrong, and that there are many older people who for one reason or another do not have their photo albums anymore.
Actually if anything it’s probably more likely that younger people will still retain their photographs after things like this with Cloud storage, and water resistant phones photos are more likely to survive things like that in this day and age. As well as, well, just normal messyness of life that causes things to get lost or broken randomly.
Here’s your original one in case you decide to delete it later:
If you think there’s no photo album with photos of your naked kiddy ass then you may just be too young for photo albums.
I get your point, but I think most people would interpret the statement as “never had photos in an album” rather than “don’t have photos on an album”.
I guess that’s fair, but he didn’t say it clearly, he said “think there’s no photo album with photos” which might imply that there never was one, but on the surface it just says that there isn’t one. And there could be an absence of one for many reasons.
I pointed out that it’s wrong, and that there are many older people who for one reason or another do not have their photo albums anymore.
Dude, you very obviously completely missed the point of the topic at hand because that’s absolutely not relevant. lol
Or maybe no daddy?
Oh honey…
That really doesn’t come accross in your favour… You might think it does because of how the votes look, but it’s because all the normal people left and only the weird people in your little bubble were left stomping on one normal guy with normal opinions for hours. The votes don’t mean you were right, just means you were the only ones left.
It does show that FlyingSquid doesn’t know to disengage fast when arguing with a dumbass - a skill that moderators should have IMO.
Yes, I do agree he for sure isn’t perfect, no objections there. But I guess I was never expecting perfection in a human. As long as he keeps learning from his mistakes and doesn’t actually do anything that he “almost” did, I don’t see it as a problem yet.
Oh yeah. Definitely agree. I only found this post while browsing all, and wanted to share this since it was something that has come across my mind recently. He’s doing more for Lemmy than me, that’s for sure.
Even if most people do it (judging by your downvotes) I think showing someone’s pictures without their consent is not ok. At all. Even worse if the purpose is ‘torture’ and ‘embarrass’ them. I don’t care if it’s their kids, children are people and deserve to be respected as such, clothed or naked.
Ah yep, that discussion.
FlyingSquid flaunts his mod powers and bans users which don’t submit to his Zionist world views by making shit up.
Lemmy.World is the most Reddit of Lemmies.
Lemmy.World is the most Reddit of Lemmies.
Well, among the ones that anyone federates with. exploding-heads is still way more reddit than world is.
*Was, they shut down a while back and largely moved to Nostr, but another instance, hilariouschaos, took their place, they’re not as aggressive as EH was but they still have many of the same users and ideals as EH did back then.
They shut down? Good.
Yeah, though I’m not sure if hilariouschaos is much better. They have limited whitelist-only federation so they are at least self-limiting in their reach, and many servers have recognized them as an EH clone so have defederated, this one (dbzer0) being one of them.
I’m so glad I finally made an account so I can block that particular reddit-type user. Might have to bounce instances based on how this goes.
What was their response?
No response :x
Why is it whenever I notice a mod, or see anyone complain about a mod, it’s always the exact same mod?
Are all Lemmy mods chill except this singular prickly tranch?
Updoot for prickly tranch
PTB. Squid is a prolific poster, but seems to take things personally very quickly.
If you’re going to abuse your powers, you should do so by abstract principles, like whether or not a commenter likes pineapple on their pizza, not how they react towards you!
All Mods Are Bastards
Wow, that’s a broad generalization
Lots of people are saying it
Not the first time they’ve supported a spammer, and their post history is full of Hail Corporate bullshit.
With this person as a mod, the spam is coming from inside the house.
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So the guy can be a complete dick the moment he feels like he’s being challenged, but it’s also silly to imply nude baby pictures are giving people ptsd or something.
You make it sound like it’s csam but they were talking about when parents show pictures of their kids in the bathtub.
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Some people are scared of pickles, that doesn’t mean we need to cover them up at the store.
You are very much the exception to the rule here and your unique trauma doesn’t make talking about something that is normal behavior for the rest of the population somehow ban worthy.
It seems to me like you are overstepping here.
In a sense of anyone can get trauma from anything that makes them uncomfortable?
You also seem to be implying in that thread that trauma is anytime something made someone feel bad… trauma is a real thing that is, while not fully understood, still quite well understood.
That might be part of the disconnect between you and he. You are using a word that has a proper definition, but thinking it means something else, and wondering why your ascribed meaning isn’t the one being conveyed.
Your issue is that a mod has opinions you disagree with?
