• Stern@lemmy.world
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    22 minutes ago

    lol packing boxes at Amazon being skilled labor in comparison to the burger dudes. Like, my dude, you’re about half a step above the dude putting a burger together then packing a bag with it, and I’m being generous.

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    1 hour ago

    am I the only one who understood this as the dude claiming the burguers flippers being the skilled labour, as in, trying to show solidarity?

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      22 minutes ago

      I took it as the total reverse.

      That he “doing skilled labor” packing boxes at Amazon is above somebody “flipping burgers” at McDonald’s.

    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s ambiguous, though. They could be complaining about the frycooks making as much as them, or about the frycooks not making as much as them. You’d have to look at what else they posted to see whether they’re generally pro-labor or not. Or ask them what they mean by their tweet. Both of which are made difficult by the username being blocked out.

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        59 minutes ago

        you’re right. but I didn’t expect everyone to have the opposite impression of what I had at first glance

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    4 hours ago

    Crab ass mentality. You should be asking why you get paid so little not keeping everyone else down

    And the fast food shit is probably about as skilled as packing Amazon boxes the fuck you on about

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      Bro, I went to college and got a degree in packinology. Not everyone is qualified to use scotch tape and bubble wrap. You know how many people die every year choking on packing peanuts?

      A brain sturgeon ain’t got shit on me.

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    I hate to break it to that guy but packing boxes isn’t skilled labor either.

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      All labour is skilled labour. If you have to be trained how to do something it’s a skill.

      You think packing boxes is just putting things in boxes but I’m sure there is more to it, particularly when working for dystopian Amazon where they’re very strict with KPIs.

      People called it unskilled labour as a means to pay people less.

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        Given the size of the boxes my Amazon stuff comes in you’d have to be extremely challenged not to be able to get that stuff in there. They’re not exactly solving the Knapsack Packing Problem multiple times a day.

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          My understanding is some algorithm decides what size box to use for an order, the packer packs that box.

          The skill comes from the repetition of doing the task to become efficient enough not to be taken out back and put down by Bezos.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s a skill. Just a lower skill, as it’s not that hard to learn or become good at it.

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        Yeah and that’s what “skilled labor” means. It is about people with higher skills required for their job, skills that are in high demand. There is a huge difference between a doctor, programmer, CAD designer, and a cashier.

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      If anything, I’d claim that burger flipping requires more skill than item boxing.

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      No. “Skilled labour” means that you’re hiring someone because of a skill or training they already have.

      A carpenter is skilled labour because you expect a carpenter to already be able to work with wood. Your not going to train them from scratch on the job. They’ll already have served as an apprentice or been trained in some other way.

      A fork lift driver would need to have a license before you hired them. Skilled labour.

      Somebody packing boxes or flipping burger is “unskilled labour”. On day 1 you’ll be taught the job. There will be no prerequisite skills needed. It doesn’t mean “there’s no skill in this job”, just that “there is no requirement to have a skill to apply this job”.

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    I think we’re all missing the point here, and this is how they divide us. (By they I mean monied interests). Back in the 60s you could get a job air hammering in the same 8 bolts all day that would provide you a house, car, and your spouse doesn’t work and you have 2 kids and go on vacation twice a year and the company takes care of your retirement. Both of these jobs (in ops post) require the same or more skill to do and you can’t even afford to rent a studio apartment on your own. We need to stop looking at other “unskilled” labor and saying “they better not make a much as me” and start asking “hold on, why can’t we both make more?” Rising tides lift all ships. The only people that suffer are the multi millionaires.

    This isnt radical. If you work full time you should be able to afford what your parents and grandparents had in the 60s working full time.

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      Honest labor is honest labor, whatever it’s moping the floor or engineering new bridges and rockets. We need each other. And we all want to have a sufficient amount of these funny play-money papers once we clock out for today, or, rather, not feeling limited by the lack of them up to the point of starvation.

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      7 hours ago

      Those bathrooms are proof those employees don’t receive the hazard pay they should to clean those things. Mcdonalds.

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    The difference in pay is easier to understand if we keep the time increments the same:

    Dude: $16/hr

    Bezos: $9,000,00/hr

    Bezos makes 562,500 times as much.

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      I agree with your point, but I’m struggling with your numbers… Is it $9,000.00/hr or $900,000/HR?

      Editting myself to add: either is a horrific amount for one man to earn

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          Man, if you have to be a dick to people on the internet to feel special I don’t know what to tell you.

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            On a ragebait post specifically about being a dick to an obvious strawman.

            Sorry, but if you’re so eager to hate that you fail to notice this incredibly obvious troll, you should look in a mirror before accusing others of being dicks.