• Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      41·
      1 month ago

      Neither of them. I won’t lift a finger in support of either one.

      If someone wants my vote they need to actually offer me something. If they would rather lose my vote than concede anything they are fundamentally opposed to my goals. I’m not interested in empowering or legitimizing my enemies.

        • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
          47·
          1 month ago

          So unless a candidate is 100% aligned with every wish and desire you have and placates you with generous offerings,

          Why does every single argument libs have on voting sound like a stark condemnation of democracy itself?

        • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          45·
          1 month ago

          You do realize that’s not how democracy works, right?

          That is in fact exactly how democracy works

          That’s how it was envisioned. You voted for the person who aligned with your views on the world. America is the one who corrupted it into two identical parties and started this dogshit meme that you have to hold your nose and vote for a colour regardless of policy

        • FuckyWucky [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
          41·
          1 month ago

          Note: I’m not American but this still applies.

          I said in my other comment that it’s not just Palestine, she also wants to build the Trump border wall. It’s not 80% alignment but near zero.

          The only policy that she had that was even half decent was price controls and she dropped that very quickly.

          She says she will defend abortion, but has not said how. She said she will defend LGBT rights but again, how?

          You know, liberals and leftist parties in global south countries are far more competent when it comes to describing policy. Heck even Obama masqueraded as a progressive.

          For instance, here is the manifesto of the coalition which recently won the elections in Sri Lanka. Will they be able to implement it? Maybe maybe not, but they articulated it.

          https://www.npp.lk/en/policies/npppolicystatement

          • nohaybanda [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            29·
            1 month ago

            See, democracy is when fascism is the default outcome, wanting better is unrealistic and you gotta vote genocide to “stop” genocide. No, you don’t get to question what stop means here

            • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              19·
              1 month ago

              No, you don’t get to question what stop means here

              Stop means a sufficiently heartwarming speech about forgiveness and reconciliation toward the atrocity-doers until they have a good cry about it atop the pile of the dead that they have already murdered.

        • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          25·
          1 month ago

          Please explain to me how democracy works, wise liberal. How much genocide does democracy require you vote for? How much must you empower your opponents to be democratic?

          Why don’t you vote for Trump? Just because he’s not offering anything you want?

    • SadArtemis [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      21·
      1 month ago

      If they’ll keep coming either way, which candidate do you want?

      Honest answer to your likely dishonest question- if your country has nothing to offer the world but genocide, terrorism, and destruction (by the looks of it, it doesn’t) then I want whichever candidate will destroy your abominable, monstrous regime (and clearly it is yours, whatever degree you agree with it or not, you support it) in as quick and quarantined a fashion as possible.

      Your country (mine as well, as a vassal of yours) is currently engaging in full-scale industrial genocide and pushing for WW3 on multiple fronts. Did you think that sticking a pride flag on your genocide, propping up a black (slaver) figurehead to be the face of it, or promising table scraps (lmao, it’s not like anyone even expects those- but those who do are both evil and gullible) to the peasants would make it any better? Frankly as a poor, queer POC it doesn’t, it fills me with disgust and makes me want to puke (much as I imagine anti-Zionist Jews feel seeing their religion used to perpetuate yet another holocaust on their Palestinian cousins).

      • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        5·
        1 month ago

        Seeing our collective identities being held up as a shield to defend the ultimate sin of genocide makes me want to actually just slap these gormless fucking liberals.

        Like why the fuck would I vote for someone that wants to throw me in a prison where if I were not sufficiently masc presenting I would be at an overwhelmingly higher vulnerability for being SA’d or murdered? How can you think it’s okay to demand I vote for that?