• echo@lemmings.world
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      Their suggestion, as the Russian trolls endorse, is to vote for anyone except Harris.

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        Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us?

        Yes, just as Muslim activist groups and Palestinians have been suggesting, I will be voting for PSL.

        You’re also ignoring the bit where I said revolution is necessary.

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          Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us? Probably…

          If you don’t like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don’t like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.

          • Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.
          • Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.
          • Fact 3: Your ‘messaging’ is helping Trump

          Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of “the Russian trolls” is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are “on message” with those who would choose to see Trump win.

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            If you don’t like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don’t like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.

            The “lesser evils” are the Greens and PSL, neither is perfect but both are miles ahead of the current genocidal regime and the other genocidal party. Genocide is a red line. As well as that, I advocate for joining Leftist parties like PSL and FRSO, organizing outside the electoral system.

            • Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.

            They are both unacceptable evil, period. They both support genocide, and they both are gearing up for WW3 with the PRC, and neither is doing what needs to be done for Climate Change. The only peaceful method of saving humanity is pushing repeatedly for the 1% chance of a third party winning, otherwise revolution is necessary anyways.

            • Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.

            Fucking lmao. No, she isn’t, she’s just a more likeable face of Empire.

            • Fact 3: Your ‘messaging’ is helping Trump

            No it isn’t, Harris’ dedication to genocide, Imperialism, and failure to meaningfully manage climate change is helping Trump. Your messaging is helping genocide and Imperialism.

            Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of “the Russian trolls” is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are “on message” with those who would choose to see Trump win.

            Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of the US State Department is to do anything possible to diminish support for anyone other than Harris and Trump either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are “on message” with those who would choose to see genocide, Imperialism, climate catastrophe, and World War 3.

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              The “lesser evils” are the Greens and PSL

              Don’t be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.

              They are both unacceptable evil, period. T

              Then don’t vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you’ve supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.

              Don’t bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.

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                Don’t be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.

                I have started long before, as have other Leftists. Liberals will fight to the death to defend the status quo, to the point of supporting genocide and imperialism.

                Then don’t vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you’ve supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.

                I’ll sleep tight knowing I did what Muslim-Americans and Palestinians advocated for me to do, refuse to side with genocide and imperialism. Harris will be personally responsible for campaigning on genocide and imperialism, and World War 3, and refusing to address climate change. You will be personally responsible for her campaigning on that platform instead of trying to force her hand.

                Don’t bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.

                Ah, yes, the genocide of Palestinians is “Russian Propaganda.” Hope you can turn yourself around.

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      For the election? PSL or Greens.

      To fix the mess the US is? Armed revolution.

      Organize, join a political party relevant to your area.

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        Name a single PSL or Green candidate that is running for an office besides the presidency. Oh what’s that? You can’t without looking it up? Gee, doesn’t sound like you’re at all in tune with local politics which is the only place a third party could grow from. It sounds like you just want to whine without offering any real solutions.

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          Third parties can’t grow from local politics, lmao. The second they posed a threat the DNC and GOP collaborate against them.

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            Brother, if you can’t even get a sizable chunk of people to join you now you sure as fuck aren’t coming out of an armed revolution on top. There’s no shortcut to going where you want to go. You gotta put in the work to convince people at the ground level.

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              I agree, local politics isn’t the way to do that. Join an org like PSL or FRSO.