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    According to Ross, six days before the Titan submarine imploded, the sub’s pilot and the company’s cofounder, Stockton Rush, crashed the vessel into a launch mechanism bulkhead while the vessel was attempting to resurface from dive 87. […] but Ross said he did not know if an inspection of the sub was carried out afterward.

    How does every new detail about the excursion keep getting worse? Next week I’m going to learn they used Saran wrap for the windows.

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      It’s like an oasis in the desert right now. Everyone can look at this crazy spectacle and ignore all the polarized and heart-wrenching crazy bs that the rest of the news is full of.

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    It’s a good thing that no serious company uses excel spreadsheets to manage their data, right? Right?

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      There are teams where I work that are basically using Excel as a database and SharePoint as S3 in automated processes… But at least no one is going to DIE when those things fall over!

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      Look, if Excel is the last mile and everyone is properly plugged into a corporate database to pull numbers, then great.

      But way too many companies manage everything from a network share full of xlsx files…

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      Of course not! We employees of Fortune 500 companies use Google Sheets to manage critical data.

      It’s in the cloud, that’s how you know it’s good.

      (I’m not even joking…our VP said this)

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        Excel effectively forces cloud usage now if you want to use autosave. And frankly, Microsoft is doing everything it can to shift users to cloud based Office apps.

        They really, really want users and business owners to think of the local data storage and desktop computing as secondary to OneDrive and Webapps. I swear at some point in the future the consumer version of Windows will be little more than the Edge browser in a wig.

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        I just wish the whole ‘cloud’ thing would die in a ditch specifically for people like that.

        No, most use-cases don’t need to be in a cloud.

        You are 99.9% paying more for that setup than having people who understand servers.

        And if you need the cloud, then hooray for you, but it should not need to be subsidized by thousands of small customers who jumped on the wrong train.

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      Be me, postal worker. One of our machines uses a csv file to attach zip codes to bins. See fresh engineer decide to change one zip code in notepad really quick. See file’s formatting get wrecked. Spend next 6 hours watching all the mail spit out of the very last bin every time they think they finally fix it as if machine has irritable bowel syndrome. Engineer earns nickname ‘boy wonder’ first week on job

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        This is why I always save contents as a new file instead of overwriting the original one when I’m using a machine that isn’t mine. I’ve been burned so many times by flimsy newline characters, proper unicode support, legacy encoding and many other stuff you assume it should be already in place.

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    The more you hear about this sub the worse it gets.

    I’m not surprised, of course, given the shortcuts Rush was determined to take.

    Also it’s the first time I saw the picture in that article of the other crushed remains. I’m pretty impressed they could get pictures that deep.

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    I’m ready to weep from this.

    Every time any problem comes up, my current manager insists we must use Excel to solve it.

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    Jesus Christ that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. The submarine in the game Iron Lung was safer to drive than this thing.

    But Wilby said that for the Titan, the coordinate data was transcribed into a notebook by hand and then entered into Excel before loading the spreadsheet into mapping software to track the sub’s position on a hand-drawn map of the wreckage.

    The OceanGate team tried to perform these updates at least every five minutes, but it was a slow, manual process done while communicating with the gamepad-controlled sub via short text messages.

    Updates every FIVE MINUTES?! I wouldn’t even trust this thing in a damn swimming pool.

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        Right? I work with plenty of users in non-technical roles who have at best rudimentary Excel skills, and even they could figure out a better way to manage this. The whole thing with Excel is to make basic data work accessible even to a rube, and let them do an incredible amount of things otherwise outside their skillet.

        Using Excel like this is like giving someone a microwave and they only use it as a kitchen timer.

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      I really do wonder why they ended up in this. It can’ be that hard to make even a hacky DIY system to do it automatically. The navigation system just had to have some digital or even analog output, then it would be just the problem of interpreting the signal with some script and writing it into a file.

      When Wilby recommended the company use standard software to process ping data and plot the sub’s telemetry automatically, the response was that the company wanted to develop an in-house system, but didn’t have enough time.

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        To write a script, you need someone who can write scripts.
        If all you have is someone who can write VLOOKUPs in Excel, and the CEO is too cheap to hire someone, then that’s what you use.

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          So basically it’s a project done by MBA geniuses, entrepreneurs and visionaries who optimized by cutting on those mundane and boring nautical engineers and software developers?

          God, do I like how evolution works.

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        I really do wonder why they ended up in this. It can’ be that hard to make even a hacky DIY system to do it automatically.

        All-manager team, no devs?

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      Those giving out the awards want to wait and see if someone dies over laughter about this event. Then they’ll get the award.