• nifty@lemmy.world
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    It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.

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      And other lies you tell yourself.

      I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.

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          I signed up to Lemmy without knowing much about instances, can’t remember exactly why I picked lemmy.ml but it wasn’t politics.

          Is this really a generalisation people have? Should I move…?

          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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            your admins also run lemmygrad. only you can decide if you should leave. personally, i like beehaw, slrpnk, dbzero, and blahaj. one important aspect to understand about the fediverse is that your instance is part of the identity you present to others

            • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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              It has nothing to do with your identity. They all have different rules and different communities. Its more like which hotel chain you prefer to stay at. Its a preference for sure, but one that doesnt matter much.

              People who judge based on instance are only outing themselves anyways. Churlish.

              • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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                it does say something though about what style of moderation you prefer and who you associate yourself with. that’s why it’s literally part of the identity you present. it’s embedded in your username. it’s like your fediverse last name.

                • WhyFlip@lemmy.world
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                  I’ve been on Lemmy for a year and only now I’m learning about instances. I’ve read a few threads about lemmy.ml being “tankies” and that hexbear is the worst, but haven’t had any negative interactions with either. Shit, I don’t know the majority of the time which instance I’m interacting with.

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                  Sort of, at best it means that instance hasnt banned that person, yet.

                  You could argue it means something more than nothing, I’d argue its not enough to matter.

                  • Soggy@lemmy.world
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                    People really want to be allowed to be bigots and currently Communism is “safe” to hate, so they let a few interactions color their opinion of an entire, loosely-affiliated group.

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                Probably best to use a smaller instance instead of .world. The less centralized Lemmy is, the better.

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                  Ugh. Yeah I’ve heard that "it isn’t the best. It was the easiest to sign up for when the reddit exodus happened. I’m anti Israel and pro Ukraine and I’m always busy with real life/my own hobbies. I just don’t have the bandwidth for finding the best instance. C

                  • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    I would put some effort into switching when you have a weekend. There isn’t necessarily a best, just best for you. The ones quill mentioned up the thread are all solid though. I’m a dbzero guy myself but blahaj is cool and I haven’t had issues with people from any of the other servers he’s mentioned. .ml, .hexbear, .grad, and .vegan whatever that instance is are all no go in my book for various reasons.

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                    You don’t have to switch, its like email, you can just have multiple. The phone apps for lemmy have an account switch feature so you can use more than one. The sign ups aren’t much more difficult than worlds in most cases. Some require a manual approval which can take some time.

                    Personally I left world because of how antagonistic they are towards vegans. I don’t mind a good debate but its crazy to me that the majority opinion there is that veganism is about as taboo as child rape.

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            Personally, I’m fine with seeing differing opinions. On the political side, they get a bit obsessed with dunking and all these in-group memes for my tastes.

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          Ah, see I realized they were either all bad faith actors, bots, or idiots ages ago and don’t federate with them.

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        I haven’t met any in real life as far as I’m aware, but I’ve seen plenty on here.

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        I think they’re talking about the people on TV talking about it, not the protestors themselves.

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      It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.

      I don’t want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I’m glad we aren’t.

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          Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region,

          Of course I don’t. It’s why I’m glad that we’re not selling him weapons.