The sound of many of them exploding


  • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    So, what Israel is admitting here, is that they could individually pinpoint and target Hamas but instead carpet bombed Palestine into genocide.

    • JoYo
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      2 months ago

      supply chain attacks are dirty tactics too, they have no idea who is holding 3000 pagers when detonation.

      • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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        For smartphones they actually could, they could tie the lipo pack serial number to the imei and work everything out from there.

        Then make sure it’s been unlocked via biometrics within a second or so.

        It’s very rare that someone else holds a phone to be unlocked for you, though it does happen, still the closest to a targeted kill.

        • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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          They were using pagers and walkie talkies to evade the cellphone tracking that the Israelis were already doing.

          They wouldn’t have taken the cell phones.

        • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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          You would have to guarantee those phones would eventually end up in the right person’s hands.

          Otherwise if you sabotage 100 phones and only 30 go to your targets, even if you only detonate those 30 there are now 70 phones out there randomly floating around with enough explosives to kill some random person.

          • Tangent5280@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Yeah, and this is assuming that even the ones with your target isn’t hidden in a box under his kid’s bed when it goes off.

        • ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
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          I use a code to unlock. Biometrics can be unlocked while unconscious or restrained. Fuck that.

        • irotsoma@lemmy.world
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          But this only works if you know the identity of every member of the organization, which is impossible, again making this a terror campaign and not a targeted attack. And you have to detonate them all at once or people will throw away the devices. You can’t wait for the 100,00 people who belong to the organization to have just unlocked their devices all at once.

          • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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            Wtf? You’re killing everybody, you’re killing the most influential leaders you know about.

            This was stupid, and will make Israel’s life harder but Bibi is too narcissistic to accept that.

            This is also Mossad trying to wipe off O7 attacks by showering in blood, which is just stupid.

            Nothing about this makes sense as an adult.

          • Tangent5280@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            No, but you can mark which pager numbers are in combatant possession and which ones are with civvies.

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      They literally knew about the attack before it happened. Genocide was always the primary goal.

    • Drusas@fedia.io
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      Israel is obviously behind the attacks but has not taken responsibility for them yet. So no, they’re not admitting anything.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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      They are openly showing that they can do whatever they want.

      All the rest is gaslighting so that you’d not be completely sure that that’s what they are saying, thus not so confident in yourself. Another kind of attacking other’s morale.

      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        They are openly showing that they can do whatever they want.

        Yes. And what zionists want to do is terrorism, genocide, etc.

    • slaacaa@lemmy.world
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      This is the key thing here. People can whine about this attack, but this was targeted and it worked with low collateral damage, which also makes it legal (as in not a war crime).

      The problem is everything else that Israel is doing since Oct 7, causing 1/3 of the Palestinian casualties to be children.

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        The very nature of a supply chain sabotage like this is indiscriminate.

      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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        Human Rights Watch :

        Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction.

      • Pips@lemmy.sdf.org
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        It’s low collateral damage the same way a suicide bomber is. So, I guess, your IDF-brained take is suicide bombers are low casualty and precise.

        • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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          It’s a low collateral attack when you see civilians as enemies and want literally all of them dead.