Why are you listening to the youtube recommendations? Why are you looking at the recommendations? What are you expecting there in the first place?
There was a time when the YouTube recommendations were actually pretty good. I discovered a number of great artists just from suggested songs and playlists. That no longer seems to be the case though, my recommendations have been garbage for more than 5 years at this point.
Dunno what y’all did to your algorithms but mine is still working just fine. When something odd comes up that I don’t like, I tell it not to continue recommending that.
Well, I make maps for a rhythm game and like to rewatch my showcase videos, so it started offering me that (meaning it’s music I enjoy but with a lot of shooting in the background).
It can definitely work if you’ve trained it right. It’s how I discovered many of my now favorite vocaloid/utau/deepvocal/whatever songs, amongst other groups outside of that vocal synth genre. It definitely isn’t doing me super dirty in the music department.
Here’s the full text of the disclaimer on the channel’s “About” tab as of present:
“Disclaimer:
Popsie Funk is a fictitious creation. The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
I am adding this disclaimer due to repeated questions about the genuine authenticity of Popsie Funk and his music.
While being asked the same question dozens of times can be taxing, I take confusion as a huge compliment!
After all, if you can’t tell by ear that my music is A.I. generated, then I’m doing my job right!”
The channel owner directly states that it is their intention to mislead. I did see the disclaimer on the channel after looking up the “artist” and before making this post, but that disclaimer is not visible on the thumbnail preview and the video description omits any reference to it. The inclusion of the year in the video title as well as the hashtags all attempt to work their way into the feeds of those not in the know to convince them that it is legitimate.
The channels that are not upfront are even worse.
When I am using my phone as opposed to a desktop, I watch YouTube videos in the phone’s built-in browser so I can refresh the page to skip any ads before the video. I typically don’t have the patience after watching the video to open the YouTube app and wait for an ad to load and then wait to swipe the ad out of the way just to “Like” or “Dislike” the video. I may glimpse through the recommended page on the chance there is anything that I may have missed, or that may have been a surprise upload, or that may be adjacent to videos/channels that I’ve already watched and which may be of interest to me.
The channel owner directly states that it is their intention to mislead. I did see the disclaimer on the channel after looking up the “artist” and before making this post, but that disclaimer is not visible on the thumbnail preview and the video description omits any reference to it. The inclusion of the year in the video title as well as the hashtags all attempt to work their way into the feeds of those not in the know to convince them that it is legitimate.
The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
Generated from human compositions, human-mixed, human-edited, there’s plenty of songs which have less human input. Even I can steal beats from a frying steak.
This isn’t the “automated AI slop” that you’re looking to complain about.
As to “intention to mislead”: That has nothing to do with AI. Passing off a new composition as a 1974 track on first sight is peak retro.
When popular “real artists” release songs, they usually won’t have written the lyrics or the music, leaving just the vocals, which they will auto tune and possibly even mime in future performances.
A producer will then use powerful software to mix and refine everything.
So really the question to me is not about “is there anything impure in this art?” It’s “where is the line?”.
by opening videos you don’t like and give them a thumbs down
You don’t need to do this. There literally is a feature for exactly this: Click on the three dots and on “Don’t recommend”. If you do this, content like that won’t be recommended to you anymore.
I can promise you that the ‘dont recommend’ rarely works, and if used on Youtube Music it will actually show it to you as if you liked the video, even if you disliked it on regular Youtube
This Popsie Funk channel is upfront, that the music is AI generated.
goes looking
Yeah, the description reads:
Popsie Funk is a fictitious creation. The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
I am adding this disclaimer due to repeated questions about the genuine authenticity of Popsie Funk and his music.
I don’t think that the artist in question is faking this.
All that being said, while this particular case isn’t, I suppose one could imagine such a “trying to pretend to be human” artist existing. That is, if you think about all the websites out there with AI-generated questions and answers that do try to appear human-generated, you gotta figure that someone is thinking about doing the same with musicians…and at mass scale, not manually doing one or two.
I am adding this disclaimer due to repeated questions about the genuine authenticity of Popsie Funk and his music.
I don’t think that the artist in question is faking this.
All that being said, while this particular case isn’t, I suppose one could imagine such a “trying to pretend to be human” artist existing.
They were pretending, and added the disclaimer because people bugged them about it. They still worded the disclaimer as if Popsie Funk was a real person (his music).
I mean, yes it is garage, but:
Yes, it is still bad.
There was a time when the YouTube recommendations were actually pretty good. I discovered a number of great artists just from suggested songs and playlists. That no longer seems to be the case though, my recommendations have been garbage for more than 5 years at this point.
Dunno what y’all did to your algorithms but mine is still working just fine. When something odd comes up that I don’t like, I tell it not to continue recommending that.
Yeah. You gota curate that shit. Then it works.
Well, I make maps for a rhythm game and like to rewatch my showcase videos, so it started offering me that (meaning it’s music I enjoy but with a lot of shooting in the background).
But other than that it’s solid.
It can definitely work if you’ve trained it right. It’s how I discovered many of my now favorite vocaloid/utau/deepvocal/whatever songs, amongst other groups outside of that vocal synth genre. It definitely isn’t doing me super dirty in the music department.
It could work when the algorithm was like that but they changed it to consider using users as test subjects for more lucrative users
Here’s the full text of the disclaimer on the channel’s “About” tab as of present:
“Disclaimer:
Popsie Funk is a fictitious creation. The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
I am adding this disclaimer due to repeated questions about the genuine authenticity of Popsie Funk and his music.
While being asked the same question dozens of times can be taxing, I take confusion as a huge compliment!
After all, if you can’t tell by ear that my music is A.I. generated, then I’m doing my job right!”
The channel owner directly states that it is their intention to mislead. I did see the disclaimer on the channel after looking up the “artist” and before making this post, but that disclaimer is not visible on the thumbnail preview and the video description omits any reference to it. The inclusion of the year in the video title as well as the hashtags all attempt to work their way into the feeds of those not in the know to convince them that it is legitimate.
The channels that are not upfront are even worse.
When I am using my phone as opposed to a desktop, I watch YouTube videos in the phone’s built-in browser so I can refresh the page to skip any ads before the video. I typically don’t have the patience after watching the video to open the YouTube app and wait for an ad to load and then wait to swipe the ad out of the way just to “Like” or “Dislike” the video. I may glimpse through the recommended page on the chance there is anything that I may have missed, or that may have been a surprise upload, or that may be adjacent to videos/channels that I’ve already watched and which may be of interest to me.
I agree in that regard.
Generated from human compositions, human-mixed, human-edited, there’s plenty of songs which have less human input. Even I can steal beats from a frying steak.
This isn’t the “automated AI slop” that you’re looking to complain about.
As to “intention to mislead”: That has nothing to do with AI. Passing off a new composition as a 1974 track on first sight is peak retro.
Indeed.
When popular “real artists” release songs, they usually won’t have written the lyrics or the music, leaving just the vocals, which they will auto tune and possibly even mime in future performances.
A producer will then use powerful software to mix and refine everything.
So really the question to me is not about “is there anything impure in this art?” It’s “where is the line?”.
You don’t need to do this. There literally is a feature for exactly this: Click on the three dots and on “Don’t recommend”. If you do this, content like that won’t be recommended to you anymore.
But then the content won’t receive my thumbdown :(
I can promise you that the ‘dont recommend’ rarely works, and if used on Youtube Music it will actually show it to you as if you liked the video, even if you disliked it on regular Youtube
goes looking
Yeah, the description reads:
I don’t think that the artist in question is faking this.
All that being said, while this particular case isn’t, I suppose one could imagine such a “trying to pretend to be human” artist existing. That is, if you think about all the websites out there with AI-generated questions and answers that do try to appear human-generated, you gotta figure that someone is thinking about doing the same with musicians…and at mass scale, not manually doing one or two.
They were pretending, and added the disclaimer because people bugged them about it. They still worded the disclaimer as if Popsie Funk was a real person (his music).