A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

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    1 year ago

    How is educating children “grooming”? Do you say that they are being “groomed” into mathematical ideology by math teachers?

    Do you think that children shouldn’t be taught about trans people?

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      1 year ago

      Conservatives (given how anti-intellectual they’ve become) would probably suggest that non-religious education is grooming.

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      I think it’s very difficult, in practice, to “teach” young children about gender identity without falling back on stereotypes and gender conformity.

      Since an 8-year-old girl doesn’t have overtly feminine characteristics like breasts or wide hips to feel physically uncomfortable with, how do you explain what it means to “feel like a boy”? The examples I’ve seen in elementary schools revert to showing a boy in a dress as “feeling like a girl”…when really, preferences for toys or clothing shouldn’t determine your gender or cis/trans-ness. (And even at older ages, being uncomfortable with newly-sprouted breasts or hating periods doesn’t make you a trans boy, of course.)

      I also think there is danger in quizzing children about this at a very young age and then taking them literally. Some of my coworkers have “transitioned” their toddlers and pre-schoolers … but these kids are still young enough to identify as cats and dogs and fairies, depending on the day. In this case, the adults aren’t intentionally grooming. But it’s likely that they’re asking leading questions and misinterpreting childhood play through their own lens of having an established gender identity.

      IMO, we’d all benefit from taking gender a bit less seriously.

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        I also think there is danger in quizzing children about this at a very young age and then taking them literally.

        What’s the danger? If a kid decides that they’re a different gender, and then changes their mind back later, what harm has been done?

        I think it’s healthy for kids to experiment when they’re still figuring out their identity. The harm comes when adults stigmatize this stuff so that a kid thinks that they’re bad or wrong for being different.