Yassine Meskhout is a Moroccan-American lawyer who works primarily as a public defender. He also writes a blog on the side. As far as I can tell, he is an ex-Muslim, and he used to be some sort of leftist when he was younger, but now has receded to being more of a centrist liberal. He mentioned in a post written in 2019 that he “used to be part of a leftwing gun rights group”.
Since October 7th of last year, he’s posted the following pieces:
Nov 1st, 2023: The Jewish Conspiracy to Change My Mind
Dec 22nd, 2023: Follow-Up On That Jewish Conspiracy
Jul 21st, 2024: I don’t know if it’s really antisemitism, but I have nothing else
I’ve copy-pasted some of the more salient passages below (FYI, there are a lot of hyperlinks in the original posts that I did not copy over, so you should check the original posts):
Motte-and-Bailey: I admit, I never knew what ‘Zionist’ meant except as a grave denunciation yet the Zionist movement has been fairly transparent about its goals from its beginning in the 19th century. You could categorize its aim across a spectrum, simplified from least to most radical: 1) Jewish homeland somewhere, 2) Jewish homeland somewhere in the Levant, and 3) Exclusive and total Jewish domination of the entire Holy Land. Both pro & anti-Zionism labels have a strategic ambiguity that can be intentionally levered by any extremist wishing to blend in the crowd. There’s a similar dynamic with the Palestinian chant ‘From the river to the sea’, because is it calling for totally and completely erasing Israel from the map? Or is it simply advocating for a coexisting independent Palestine in both the West Bank (river) and Gaza (sea)? Whatever you want!
Orthogonal Violence: I’m not a pacifist, but anyone who decides to deploy violence as a tool should be extremely careful they’re not simply succumbing towards quenching a primeval bloodthirst. Any application of violence should be oriented towards a specific goal, proportional to the objective, and carried out with humility…
In contrast, I find no justification for indiscriminate attacks on orthogonal targets. What exactly is the objective and how does murdering Olympic athletes, or bombing a discotheque, or bombing a pizzeria, or murdering bus passengers, or sniping a baby in a stroller get anyone closer to it?
No matter how righteous a cause might be, it will never be worth having this as one of its Wikipedia pages.
I don’t believe I’ve encountered anyone directly defending the strategic merits of indiscriminate unguided rocket attacks, or music festival mass shootings. Instead, I see either excuses about how we outsiders shouldn’t cast judgement upon the anguished and desperate actions of an oppressed populace, or affirmative declarations that “resistance” is justified through “any means necessary”. Hamas leadership parrot this argument, as seen in this rare moment where Ghazi Hamad breaks into English to say that as the victims in this conflict, anything they do is by definition justified. This view is beyond heinous, because it has no bounds. It posits an insane moral outlook that once someone is anointed as sufficiently oppressed, their actions — no matter what! — are indefinitely beyond reproach or scrutiny.
Israel has demonstrated a broader commitment to cosmopolitan multiculturalism, as illustrated by how the Temple Mount is governed. It’s the former site of the destroyed Second Temple (Judaism’s holiest site) which was later replaced by the Al-Aqsa Mosque (Islam’s third holiest site) and despite its central importance within Jewish lore, I was surprised to find out that Israel has prohibited all Jewish prayer since its takeover of the area in 1967 after the Six Day War. The Temple Mount area is governed by a religious committee composed only of Muslims members. I can’t fathom the countervailing scenario where Muslims are willing to prohibit prayers at Al-Aqsa.
Previously, I would roll my eyes at the reflexive refrain that any criticism of Israel is driven by anti-Jewish bigotry. I was generally skeptical of bare allegations of bigotry in any context (as a baseline), but particularly within Israeli discourse given the potential for nationalistic motives to skew reasoning. Some of my skepticism remains warranted, but I readily admit I had seriously underestimated the ambient level of anti-Jewish bigotry.
I feel like I’m insulting everyone’s intelligence here because they’re not even trying to hide it, otherwise why would anyone cite the expulsion of the Khaybar Jewish community by the Muslims in 628 CE supposedly to protest a country founded in 1948?
The Hamas-run show Tomorrow’s Pioneers aired the most deranged children’s television segment I have ever seen. In one episode, children sang about how qualified they are for martyrdom (can you believe it gets worse?) and in another, the actual children of Reem Riyashi are invited to sing a song written from their perspectives, about how it’s ok their mom couldn’t hug them on the last day they saw her…because her arm was too busy holding a bomb.
What’s the counter-argument here? Is the homicidal propaganda taken out of context? Is the claim that it’s not representative? Maybe that’s true, but how can you tell?
It’s baffling that anyone seriously believes the Palestinian cause is primarily motivated by someone’s great-great-grandparent losing their farm 75 years ago. Al-Aqsa Mosque imagery is inextricably linked with the broader messaging. Hamas names everything after it (TV, brigades, floods, etc.), and Israel’s administration of the Mosque itself remains a point of serious contention.
I did not revisit some personal interactions until recent events prompted otherwise. Whenever I visited my family back home in Morocco, no other topic generated as much acrimony as Israel. It’s a common trope for home families to worry their emigrated members will be brainwashed into secularism, and bizarrely the most scrutiny I ever received from them about my life in the United States wasn’t about whether I ate bacon or drank alcohol, but whether I was friends with any Jews.
Amnesty International is a widely respected international human rights advocacy organization that issued a fucking 280-page novel in 2022 lamenting the injustices of Israel’s security barriers. They outline scores of legitimate concerns (which I’ll get to later) but across those hundreds of pages, not once does the report say anything about the rash of suicide bombings that prompted construction of the barriers and checkpoints. The only reference I could find was near the end on page 263 where they obliquely mention Israel justifies its policies on unspecified “security grounds”. Amnesty International can’t pretend to be ignorant here, as they already condemned the practice of Palestinian child suicide bombers in 2005…
Anyone who reads *only *this report (all 280 pages!) to educate themselves about the topic would be left with the bizarre and misleading impression that Israel chose to dedicate immense resources into building up an elaborate security apparatus because…they’re mean I guess?
I was shocked to find out that everyone’s favorite geographic chant has a *completely *different meaning in the original Arabic, conveniently transmogrifying “Palestine will be free” from the far less palatable “Palestine is Arab” in the original.
How does that excuse the apartheid state let alone genocide?
And on the topic of antisemitism, obviously it’s condemnable and it’s a huge issue that requires tackling. However, Zionists are one of the biggest proponents of conflating being Jewish with being Zionist.
But again, how does that justify apartheid and genocide?
It’s baffling that anyone seriously believes the Palestinian cause is primarily motivated by someone’s great-great-grandparent losing their farm 75 years ago.
Yeah, what would the cause of destitute refugees living under apartheid in their own country have to do with their families being dispossessed of their land and rights 75 years ago? What is baffling is that someone could ever write something so stupid.
Seriously. Some real “get over it” bullshit that not only ignores the permanent and growing refugee camps, but also rings hollow considering that Zionism itself is predicated an a millenia-old claim to the land! “You get over your grandpa’s land being taken, while we import New Yorkers to live there because their matrilineal line has a tenuous historical connection to the region.”
Being an apartheid state actively engaging in genocide is definitely engaging in cosmopolitan multiculturalism. Unlike what this guy seems to believe, none of the Palestinian resistance actions occur in a vacuum. There is a historical and cultural context that needs to be looked at.
Would this guy say that the Jewish resistance in the Warsaw ghetto were satisfying a “primeval bloodthirst?”
What’s that line… something about liberals being against every war but the current war… 🤷🏻♂️
I can see the kind of liberal this might appeal to, but it’s all attempting to obfuscate the fact that a european colonial state is genociding the indigenous population.
Canards like the munich olympics are ridiculous and disenguous. Black September, along with a number of innocent people with no connections to the PLO or Black September, were assassinated by Israeli forces two generations ago. If anyone involved in the operation is alive it’s unlikely to be more than a bare handful of people. Everyone responsible for that action is gone.
Meanwhile, a million Palestinians were children, born after the Millenium, when the current phase of the war began on October 7th of last year.
It’s a colonial project, they don’t belong there. if you feel they need a state, cut a piece of Germany, most of em are Germans anyway. They spoke German until 80 years ago.
Why are they there? Why should we accept the partition made by the British empire? Would you accept ethnic cleansing in part of Britain/Germany to make an Arab state? Can you imagine the impact that would have on the stability of the region?
The resistance is perfectly justified in kicking them back to Europe. In fact anything less would mean a continuation of western hegemony, harm the stability of the region.
Would you accept ethnic cleansing in part of Britain/Germany to make an Arab state?
Great replacement, but real
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You’ve posted a ton of stuff. Maybe you could narrow down the main arguments you’re interested in hearing a response to maybe 2 or 3?
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1& 2: Supporting Palestinian resistance against colonization had never meant supporting all aspects of Hamas or of Palestinian society. It’s called critical support - we obviously have critiques of fundamentalist Islamic movements writ large but those critiques are not relevant right now. There is no retrograde aspects of Palestinian life that justify the theft, degradation and imprisonment they experience through Israeli colonization.
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No. The author is the slippery one here. Anti-Zionism as a movement is not against the theoretical idea of a Jewish state, pretending it is is just sophistry. It’s against stealing land for a Jewish state from innocent people. And I’m not interested in the author concern-trolling about effective messaging while they actively obfuscate about the meaning of the message. Zionism in practice is ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism.
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When you have a large enough movement you can always cherrypick people who have weird or just wrong takes. It’s not meaningful, this is not what the movement is about so who cares that they found a bad take.
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Again, not interested in concern trolling the efficacy of messaging especially of some of the most brutalized people on Earth. Oh brutalized people say and do things you don’t like? OK so what? Does that make them deserve their brutalization? Do you think an effective way to minimize retrograde takes is to continue subjecting them to a hopeless lifetime of oppression? What are we doing here?
If you dig through OP’s comment history I think he’s a fed or a lib, it’s full of this kind of concern-trolling shit. Not sure if I should report him or not; honestly if I were running this place I’d just give them a site ban.
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Reads like debate bro stuff.
Lots of fodder for trivia brained people but ultimately it’s just being used in service of “both sidesing” the genocide.
The reaction of the oppressed is in never comparable to the violence they suffer. They have the right to defend themselves.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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