Trump would support the holocaust if he thought it would make more people like him.
What I think you’re saying is: He doesn’t care about having more people like him (read as, people similar to himself). He cares that more people like him (read as, people who worship him).
Trump doesn’t believe in anything. He doesn’t care about policy. If he said he was in favor of universal healthcare it was because he thought it would be advantageous to him in some way. It’s all a performance. All he cares about is enriching himself and his family and being powerful.
He uses RINO as a weapon to beat any republicans who dare oppose him, but he’s the biggest flip flopper of them all. I can’t understand how his fans can’t see this. He stands for nothing. There is not one single position he wouldn’t abandon in a heartbeat if it came with a nice paycheck.
Republicans are demonstrably very stupid. That’s how they cannot see through it: They do not think past, “he said something I like behind the podium!”.
Same way they view religion. There are no moral axioms (that withstand logical analysis, anyways), only in-groups and out-groups.
that’s the magic of having no consistency, you can find anything and its opposite in 40+ years of uncontrolled rambling, scheming, lying and cheating.
Political party
Republican (1987–1999, 2009–2011, 2012–present)
Other political
affiliations
Reform (1999–2001)
Democratic (2001–2009)
Independent (2011–2012)
Really looking like Trump’s the true RINO.
Yeah, I’m not certain he would be able to come up with ways to insult people that aren’t just projecting the insults that hurt him. He doesn’t even usually know what they mean at first. He’ll just project onto them a random negative thing people have said about him and then either deny it if it didn’t stick, or lean into it if it did.
He’s not creative enough to come up with insults actually about them on the spot. Those have to be pre-planned or handed to him.
Seems like he just wants to be a contrarian asshole, especially if you look from the Clinton years onward.
There was a Trump interview from the 90s where he said that if he ever ran for office he would go Republican because they were stupid, gullible and easily manipulated. Sadly I cannot find that interview anymore.
Dang
I managed to stop the page from loading the paywall. Lots of text incoming
If Oprah Winfrey’s “active thinking” about a run for the nation’s top office evolves into a bid to unseat Donald Trump in 2020, there’s one clip of the pair that’s already the front-runner to be played ad infinitum.
It’s a nearly three-minute video from a 1988 interview on Winfrey’s show. In the hot seat is a blue-suited, much younger Donald Trump, espousing the same protectionist beliefs that would ultimately land him in the Oval Office.
With the microphone is, of course, Winfrey, asking Trump questions that could easily be aimed at a 2018, post-Golden Globes version of herself:
This sounds like political, presidential talk to me. And I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run — would you ever?
In 1988, it was another celebrity interview. But in the intervening three decades, the stars of the clip have become some of the most famous faces on the planet, and more political. One is president and has launched a reelection committee. The other endorsed Barack Obama, then Hillary Clinton, and is facing a renewed round of calls that she seek the presidency after a Golden Globes message that many have likened to a political stump speech.
Their 1988 interview happened shortly after Trump had taken out a full-page ad criticizing U.S. foreign policy. George H.W. Bush and Michael Dukakis were embroiled in a race for the presidency.
So Winfrey quickly steered the conversation to politics — particularly whether Trump would ever be involved in it.
He demurred with the same answer he’d given time and again:
“I love what I’m doing,” the real estate magnate said on the clip. “I really like it,” but he said he would “never want to rule it out totally, because I really am tired of seeing what’s happening with this country, how we’re really making other people live like kings and we’re not.”
Oprah Winfrey’s presidential candidate-esque Golden Globes speech, annotated
Thirty years later, it is Winfrey apparently mulling whether to place her life on hold to steer the country.
The apparent reconsideration is happening after Winfrey gave an inspiring call to arms encouraging people — including “some pretty phenomenal women” — to help effect change:
“I want all the girls watching here and now to know that a new day is on the horizon! And when that new day finally dawns, it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men, fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say “me too” again.
As The Washington Post’s Steven Zeitchik wrote afterward, “Winfrey’s speech had a stump-like quality, earning raves for its inspirational tone, its careful balance of deep scars of racial and gender injustice with an optimism that they could be healed.”
Friends told CNN anonymously that Winfrey was “actively thinking” about running for president. Her longtime partner, Stedman Graham, said she “would absolutely do it.”
Afterward, Meryl Streep told Zeitchik that she was on the Oprah train. “She launched a rocket tonight. I want her to run for president,” Streep said. “I don’t think she had any intention [of declaring]. But now she doesn’t have a choice.”
Although both Trump and Winfrey have a show-business pedigree and billionaire bank accounts, the two stars of that 1988 clip have vastly different backstories.
Trump was the fourth child of a millionaire real estate developer and was raised in a 23-room brick mansion in Jamaica Estates, Queens. He attended a military school and started his real estate empire with a million-dollar loan from his father.
Winfrey told the Golden Globes audience that she is the daughter of a woman who made money cleaning other people’s houses. Winfrey’s nationally syndicated talk show became a launchpad for a global media empire that turned her into a billionaire.
Several women have accused Trump of inappropriate sexual touching. In 2005, Trump bragged in vulgar terms about groping, kissing and trying to have sex with women in a conversation caught on a hot microphone, a recording that was later obtained by The Post.
Winfrey has spoken publicly about her sexual abuse at the hands of her mother’s friends in Mississippi, and she spoke at length about abuse victims in her Golden Globes speech.
“I want tonight to express gratitude to all the women who have endured years of abuse and assault because they, like my mother, had children to feed and bills to pay and dreams to pursue,” she said. “They’re the women whose names we’ll never know.”
Did not see where he said he would run as Republican
Yeah, he doesn’t. He praises republican leaders and policies, but no where does he say he’d run as a republican nor call the voters stupid. The man makes himself look bad enough, we don’t need misinformation
It’s honestly shocking how different he is now in speeches. He still came off as a sleaze bag 30 years ago, but not someone I would assume is functionally illiterate.
Right? This must be the nostalgia goggles his cult is wearing
He didn’t say any of those things in your linked video.
You are absolutely right, but this is the interview that is being referred to as far as I can discern. I think people tried to infer he was calling them stupid? Something to do with praising republican leaders and policies maybe? Definitely a stretch, and we don’t need misinformation to make this scum look bad
I suspect it was faked personally
It was with Oprah Winfrey in 1988. Try again
Edit: it isn’t fake, but it is false
Please explain the edit a bit
Edit: also thank you for the info. I had only ever seen a picture with the quote and his face. So the video source is new for me and given the stated age, not faked.
There is an actual interview that is referenced, but what is being said about the interview is false
I saw it years before deepfakes were a thing. I wish I had saved the video now. I would have loved to take a more critical look at it.
Another commentor corrected my info.
I had suspected it was faked because I only ever saw his picture and a quote like it was designed to look like a magazine. Turns out it’s a direct quote from an Oprah interview he did in the late 80’s
It actually is not a direct quote. He never said it
Trump has historically been for or against whatever he thinks will be the best for him.
When you don’t have any convictions of your own, you can be simultaneously for and against everything under the sun. Donny is a perfect example. He is always eager to sell out to whoever soothes his ego and fills his pocket. Putin and Saudis know this and exploit the fuck out of Don.
Just remember how Putin got Donny to pull US out of several critical arms treaties that ensured American safety for decades. Media glossed over it and don’t even talk about how Trump made everyone far less safe than what immigrants could ever do
Turns out Republicans are easier to grift. There’s a turn up for the books.
Putin and Saudis know this and exploit the fuck out of Don.
Is it being exploited when in return they get you the
future dictatorPOTUS position?
Sure, it would be paid by taxes that he wasn’t paying. Makes sense.
I’m somewhat ashamed to admit it, but back before he did “The Apprentice”, I’ll admit I was somewhat fascinated by Trump as a business “mogul”. I read at least 5 of his books starting with “Art of the Deal”. Here are some highlights I remember:
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He constantly bragged about deals in which he completely fucked someone over. Not once did he acknowledge it - at all. It’s like it never entered his mind. Or, that the more he fucked someone over, the more proud he was.
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He bragged about never preparing for speeches. He likes to completely wing it every time - which I guess is obvious.
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He claimed to never eat lunch. Too busy “making deals” he said.
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He used to be very good friends with the Clintons. Went to their parties often. Spoke very highly of them.
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Didn’t mention Jeffrey Epstein at all. You know, like all those pictures of them together might have been a secret?
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Talked about times when he was flat broke or in the hole and how he needed to fake that he was rich to keep up appearances so people would want to do deals with him. I remember one paragraph where he was walking into a building in NY with Ivanka and pointed out a homeless person and told her “See that man. He has more money than me.”
Long before he entered politics, based on those books, I knew Donald Trump was a despicable piece of shit.
During his presidency I heard people say he thinks there’s no such thing as a win-win deal. According to him, one party has to be a loser, and the more they lose the more you win. Your first point seems to point to that as well.
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Also he left the Reform party because David Duke joined. Then after getting the GOP nom " David Duke? Never heard of him…" such a clown.
just to both party this Trump also donated to Democratic causes on top of funding Republican causes including Harris
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-donation-kamala-harris/
maybe im just misremembering, but didnt he even kinda float the idea in speeches in the beginning of his 2016 campaign? medicare for all was a pretty big topic back then.