Headline slightly sensationalised compared to article content. But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.

  • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    You claimed he never made plans to leave the country, so I posted his exact quote where he makes plans to leave the country and now you’re claiming I’m misquoting him?

    He’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced making plans to leave the country. Why didn’t you mention that in your list of other factors and context we could be talking about?

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      4 months ago

      Your quote was taken out of context. If you listen to the segment I’m commenting on here, it’s very apparent he’s not speaking about “leaving the country” but about crime rates. And as I said in the other thread, I’m only commenting on the short clip that I’m hearing. There may in fact be more context that pushes his words one way or another.

      … and again I told you their crime rates all over the world are going way down which makes sense. Cause actually, and next time what we’ll do, if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela cause it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country. Ok so we’ll go, you and I will go and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that’s what’s happening…

      So yes, I’ll concede he is making plans to leave the country to have a meeting and dinner date in another country. If’s that’s the semantics you want to focus on, I’ll concede. The reason for him leaving the country, in the context of this conversation and the larger point he’s trying to make, is about safety and crime.

      What I would infer from this is he’s pushing a false narrative about the “radical left’s agenda” to allow crime rates to go uncontrolled. I also wouldn’t take it as fact that he intends to go to Venezuela nor that he truly believes Venezuela is safer than the US. He’s being hyperbolic using a hypothetical. Which is totally on brand for him.

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        4 months ago

        You admit he’s a liar, and that he’s making plans on leaving the country so why trust him when he says WHY he says he’s making those plans? Again, he’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced. For being a stickler on ‘context’, you seem to be ignoring that part.

        Also, are you going to edit your initial comment to admit that he did make plans to leave the country now that you conceded he did?

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          4 months ago

          It’s evident that your mind is made up. You’ve chosen to reject reality in favor of your hopes and your feelings. Something must be true because you want it to be true. While I also want it to be true, I prioritize reality to inform my observations.

          It’s painful to observe our comprehension of reality melting away for the benefit of the media and corporations and fascist-wannabes. They know people just see and feel what they want as long as it generates something other than nothing. I genuinely hope you’ll find a way to disconnect yourself from the twisted reality you subscribe to.

          Actually, I had considered editing my comment to reflect the fact that he did not make plans to leave. It’s a hypothetical situation based on something that hasn’t happened. How you’re unable to discern that is too much for my mind to handle right now.

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            So yes, I’ll concede he is making plans to leave the country

            I had considered editing my comment to reflect the fact that he did not make plans to leave.

            You don’t get to have it both ways. How you’re unable to discern that is too much for my brain. Have a good day.