We don’t know what would’ve happened with NATO, but we do know that a war may have been avoided. Your concerns for the fate of NATO feel somewhat hollow in face of real human suffering that unfolded.
In fact, it’s very likely that had NATO become irrelevant then Europe could develop much better relations with Russia going forward creating far better stability and security in the region.
That is literally not what both Germany and France tried all these years. In fact, there is no trying involved here. Both Germany and France could have vetoed Ukraine’s membership in NATO at any time. There is literally no trying involved here.
NATO wouldn’t really be an organization worth of note without France and Germany. This is precisely why Germany was in the position to act. You’re engaging in speculation about something that may eventually happen as a justification for not taking action to avert a real war in which people are currently dying.
I’m not mistaken at all. You’re arguing against a scenario you literally made up to justify doing nothing to avoid a very real war. There’s clearly no point continuing this.
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We don’t know what would’ve happened with NATO, but we do know that a war may have been avoided. Your concerns for the fate of NATO feel somewhat hollow in face of real human suffering that unfolded.
In fact, it’s very likely that had NATO become irrelevant then Europe could develop much better relations with Russia going forward creating far better stability and security in the region.
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That is literally not what both Germany and France tried all these years. In fact, there is no trying involved here. Both Germany and France could have vetoed Ukraine’s membership in NATO at any time. There is literally no trying involved here.
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NATO wouldn’t really be an organization worth of note without France and Germany. This is precisely why Germany was in the position to act. You’re engaging in speculation about something that may eventually happen as a justification for not taking action to avert a real war in which people are currently dying.
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I’m not mistaken at all. You’re arguing against a scenario you literally made up to justify doing nothing to avoid a very real war. There’s clearly no point continuing this.