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“Biden realized that Netanyahu was lying to him about the hostages,” the official told Haaretz. “He’s not saying it publicly yet, but in the meeting between them, he specifically told him, ‘Stop bullshitting me.’”

On Friday, a senior member of the Israeli negotiating team told Haaretz that Israeli defense chiefs believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not interested in a hostage deal/cease-fire with Hamas. Israel’s Channel 12 also reported on a tense exchange between Netanyahu and the defense chiefs, in which Shin Bet head Ronen Bar said, “It feels like the prime minister doesn’t want the framework that’s on the table.” Turning to Netanyahu, he added that if that is the case, “you should tell us.”

Mossad chief David Barnea stressed to Netanyahu, “There is a deal on the table. If we delay, we could miss the opportunity. We have to take it.” Netanyahu, per the report, reacted angrily, accusing the defense chiefs of being “soft.”

  • Guydht@lemmy.world
    645·
    5 months ago

    Comparing this war with the Holocaust is stupid. Even if you ignore the numbers, the situation itself is completely different. Palestinians are armed, hostile and a threat. German Jews were just harmless citizens, some even being in the German army, defending the country.

    • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
      153·
      5 months ago

      Did you really even think this through like at all?

      Believing leveling the civilian infrastructure and killing vast segments of families won’t lead to further radicalization and terrorism is stupid.

      Believing Israel can’t protect its borders if it actually read its own intelligence reports and committed even half the number of IDF to its 20-mile border as it did to this offensive is stupid.

      Believing attacking Gaza actually resolves the problem or even deals with the larger nations feeding those terrorists is stupid.

      Believing Bibi actually cares and isn’t just trying to wage an imperial conquest while trying to avoid ongoing criminal trials in Israel is stupid.

      Believing executing 4 women and children for 1 Hamas operative is worth it is fundamentally stupid.

      • Guydht@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 months ago

        Ok, cool.

        How does anything you wrote have anything to do with what I wrote? Like, at all?

    • interdimensionalmeme
      112·
      5 months ago

      They had 75 years to make peace. As the party with constant military supremacy and backing of the hegemonic power, the onus was on them to make it work. But we’ve known for decades that Israel’s leaders sabotaged the so called “peace process” and only wished to foster more hostility so they of leverage their military superiority.

      Good thing both sides have been breeding child soldiers like crazy so they both can have the blood orgy they crave so much.

      We just want to forget this cursed land of hate exists, is that so much to ask?

      • Guydht@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 months ago

        A. Who talked about peace? Who talked about who’s at fault? Read again what I wrote. All I said is that the situation is vastly different. This conflict requires peace to be made, the Holocaust wasn’t a conflict, but a straight up slaughter.

        B. Israeli child soldiers are news to me… There are plenty of photos of Hamas marching with children with weapons, but none that I know of from the Israeli side

        And yeah, I 100% agree that land just shouldn’t exist and that’s it.

        • interdimensionalmeme
          11·
          5 months ago

          Who talked about peace ? Everyone who has been trying to make us swallow this shit for the entire duration of since the UN’s original sin.

          Child soldiers ? I mean the Haredim breeders. Like most war religions, there is heavy emphasis on breeding child soldiers to outswarm the heathen invaders out of the righteous land they occupy.

          I was more riffing after your comment than responding to it.

          The whole affair disgusts me to the highest degree.

          I think multicellular life was a mistake, a hellish evolutionary dead end.

          • Guydht@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            Saying Haredim and Soldiers in the same sentence is pretty stupid, considering all they do is study the Torah all day every day. I guess you meant the religious zionists movement, which are settlers and violent and should really be boycotted by every human alive.

            • interdimensionalmeme
              1·
              4 months ago

              I know a positive eugenics program when I see one. In this kind of war, what count is body count.

    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
      61·
      5 months ago

      Palestinians will get shot on site if going outside with a knife. Settlementers keep snipers on them consistently. Not just on Gazans.

      • Guydht@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 months ago

        I mean, if by “going outside” you mean - “crossing the Israeli border illegally” - then yes. They will get shot on site. I still don’t see how this has any comparison with the Holocaust.