• something_random_tho@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Right of access to public spaces doesn’t mean shitting on the street, smoking crack, starting fires, or stealing dozens of bikes and packages from neighbors.

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      4 months ago

      They shit on the street because no one is letting them use any bathrooms. They are “starting fires” because it gets cold in L.A. at night.

      Most homeless people in L.A. are not drug addicts or thieves. They’re just down on their luck in one of the most expensive cities in the country. Many of them even have jobs. But when rent is $2000 a month for a shithole that’s a 3-hour drive from their job, what are they supposed to do?

      This says almost 50% of homeless people were working in L.A. and that was back in 2020- https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/homeless-la-county-homelessness-working-jobs/

      So you tell us: where are they supposed to go? How are they even supposed to get there?

      Also, re the drug part- if you had to live in the conditions they lived in, you’d probably be tempted to take the cheap escape that intoxication offered too.

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        They also start fires to cook with, because most food banks and SNAP don’t give warm food. You have to heat it yourself. If we loosened this restriction for SNAP there would probably be less fires.

        When it comes to theft and drug use, a lot of that isn’t the homeless. Yes some homeless, but most visible homeless literally cannot steal because they can’t even get into stores and if they do they are watched so closely.

        Drug use sure. But most homeless can’t afford to use drugs at the same rate as housed people. And drug use itself isn’t an issue, it’s that it’s in public, which they wouldn’t do if they had a house. They also would poop in their own house if they had it. Giving homeless people homes solves a ton of issues with them.

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      Tell me, where do you poop? Are you willing to let any unhoused people poop there? Where do you cook? Are you willing to let any unhoused people cook there?

      Housed people poop, do drugs, cook, and steal. Unhoused people poop, do drugs, cook, and steal. They just do it from a public space.

      Life is hard, especially when you’re on the streets. I don’t fault anyone for doing what they need to survive or recreating in a way to escape their struggles.