Rule 4: Do not promote or put drugs/alcohol/tobacco/weed/psychedelics/inhalants in a positive light.

Some comrades mentioned in private channels that weed is not addictive, I’m not going to argue on this point because this is a fundamental divide between China and some western countries.

My view is that whether you’re addicted to them or not, you shouldn’t promote these substances or put them in a positive light. It’s fine if you don’t agree with me, but anyone who leaves a comment here arguing the opposite will be banned from the community (30 days for now).

If a lot of people oppose this rule, either by downvotes and/or number of comments, I will willingly step down as moderator of this community.

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    4 months ago

    sure, i can agree with that. ive had my experience with them but i don’t see why this should be a problem. rules are rules i suppose. its perfectly valid to have negative opinions on drug use, even if i think some arguments are cringe, the same is true for advocates. i didnt come here to promote chemical use or the effects there of, i came to find solidarity. it really shouldn’t be controversial to be asked to keep those topics in other forums.

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      4 months ago

      People have different opinions on each of the listed substances, that’s fine by me. This is an anti-promotion rule that will definitely limit the discussion that people can have about them, including but not limited to:

      • advocacy for these substances
      • comparing pros and cons, then concluding that they’re a net good
      • saying that they have little or no side effects in small doses

      it really shouldn’t be controversial to be asked to keep those topics in other forums.

      I’m not sure what you mean by this last sentence, are there some words missing?

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        4 months ago

        im sorry it wasnt intentionally vague. im in full agreement with you. despite my personal opinions on drug use, as well as the valid arguments from an american standpoint. ie: drug incarceration rates directly reflecting a white supremacist agenda. the china sub isn’t the venue for this topic. and when i say these topics should stay in other forums, im again agreeing, and saying that there are better venues for that topic. thats all. i see people responding to this as if its as sleight against there free speech and i dont think thats the case, i think you are trying to bridge multiple and vastly different cultures and i think this topic is a good step in doing so.

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          4 months ago

          I think you meant to write “to” instead of “in” in your last sentence “keep those topics in other forums”, that’s what confused me.

          Whatever the situation is regarding drug incarceration in America, it is not contradictory to my anti-promotion stance. My view is that anti-promotion should be encouraged to stop more people from becoming possible victims of substance abuse. As for people that are currently undergoing issues with substance abuse, they should at the minimum not be discriminated against, and if possible be helped into a better situation.

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            4 months ago

            im with you. im a recovering addict myself. one of the first things you learn is not to glorify past experience. and anyone who struggles with those things should be surrounded by encouragement.