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    AOC turns 35 right before the election, she’s eligible. I think she’d be incredible. She knows how to energize people

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      I really wish she wasn’t constantly referred to by an acronym, it makes her sound like a super PAC or some other soulless organization instead of an actual person. Pedantic I know, but as someone only vaguely familiar with her, it’s the first thing I think of when I hear about her.

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          Milky, Leblanc jayce, Jesus fucking Krist, no idea.

          I prefer names tbh. I’m not american tho.

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            That’s fair. In the US we use those initialisms almost exclusively to refer to those people in casual conversation. They are Martin Luther King (Jr; civil rights advocate I perhaps arrogantly assume most people know of), Lindon B. Johnson (president), John F. Kennedy (president), Robert F. Kennedy (current presidential candidate/Democrat spoiler), and AOC is Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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    Why doesn’t it ever stop

    It’s not just in the politics subs now, it’s everywhere

    Please, won’t someone make it stop

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        I want to get off Mr. John Adultman’s repeated explanations of why Biden needs to step down

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        Hey! It’s the guy with nothing worth saying. That still manages to say it too loud.

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          If you follow me, I’ve called this entire mess, its causes and its resolutions, 9 months out.

          And I’ve pretty much been entirely correct, except that I called that Biden would drop out about 2 weeks earlier than he did.

          In fact I have bets going back as far as December/ January that I’ll be able to collect on.

          You can have a world view that predicts future states of reality, or can have whatever anti-scientific, reality denying mess Blue-MAGA has wrapped themselves up in.

          The choice is yours.

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            As long as you believed it that makes one person. No on else does. No one has to follow you. We’ve seen you immaturely spamming/trolling, unable to articulate actual solutions. All over the place. You aren’t collecting on anyone. But I comend you on your vivid imagination.

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              Its all here my dude. Documented for all to see. As is the gaslighting, lying, cult-like behavior that you’ve been engaged in.

              I won. History is and will be on my side.

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      Biden is too old but you want to pick Bernie? I love the guy and donated to his campaigns, but he is not the Biden replacement.

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              I mean, ultimately, I’m voting for whoever the democrats put on the ticket for that very reason. However, I would really like to see someone who has a chance of winning be on that ticket instead of just watching the train wreck happen in front of us.

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                i dont want someone that old either. unfortunately, he is most likely to beat trump. can’t see harris winning cause she is a woman and a minority and this country is still very racist/sexist. i also predict biden would step down shortly after 2nd term. worst case of biden winning is he dies in office of old age

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                  Worst case of Biden is him losing like the polls indicate. Harris is not a suitable replacement either like you said. But there are plenty of others.

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            Bernie is only 4 years older than trump. Tbh, they all should have retired years ago, but crying about age while supporting a senile geriatric is just as baseless as the rest of their grievances.

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              You’re not wrong. But Trump is far more coherent than Biden. It’s all lies, but they were coherent lies at the debate.

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                Trump has never been coherent, not once in his life.

                Remember this?

                “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things. I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff.”

                — Donald Trump, March 16, 2016, after being asked who he consults with about foreign policy

                Or this?

                “My uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart. The Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

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      How about we appreciate the work he’s done but get some actual you get folks who aren’t boomers in charge. His time has unfortunately passed for the highest office but he can be hugely effective in an important cabinet position.

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          lol, no you. Feinstein was too old as well. There should be an age restriction on both ends for government jobs.

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            I don’t think they expected people to live this long when they wrote the constitution, and I know they didn’t consider how tribalistic the country would get. Well, Washington did, but nobody listened to him.

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      I’ve been saying that for over ten years now, but the time has passed for him. Doesn’t he have a younger protege that we can start pushing?

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      I voted for him in the 2020 primary, but if were pushing Biden out because he’s too old then the same certainly applies to Bernie. Even if he’s more coherent and effective now, how will he be in four years?

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    The obvious answer is “whom ever the corporate lobbyist says should take over.”

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        Seriously. Even here on Lemmy people are suggesting her. I think she’s an awesome person but what makes her even remotely qualified to be president other than being married to a previous president? When I see shit like this it just reminds me of Hollywood and their insistence on rebooting anything and everything familiar to the populace whether they want it or not. If they’d more consistently won it’d be Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Obama spanning the last 40 years in a country with 330 million individuals.

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      If Democracy is threatened by fascism, as we’ve been told, then it’s time for Michelle Obama to step up. She can resign after the win. Do the right thing Michelle.

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    Other

    Pete Buttigeg/AOC dream team.

    Young, wicked smart, progressive enough.

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      The McKinsey consultant? The guy managing the Boeing stuff currently? I guess he couldn’t be too much worse than the current situation but why would you proactively choose him?

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        Because he could talk his way out of a pair of handcuffs and a locked cage, and I think we need someone to highlight the stupidity coming from the right and he can do it. Let AOC be the power behind the office and keep him in line.

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    None of the above, although Michelle would rock it - but she’s said she’s not interested, and having watched her husband do the job for 8 years, that’s probably a hard “nope.”

    Harris will lose the race. She’ll be a popular punching bag for conservatives, and she’s polling even lower than Biden.

    My favorites aren’t on there. Where’s Cory Booker? Where’s Amy Klobuchar? Where’s Andrew Yang? Where’s Buttigieg, or Warren?

    Yang, Buttigieg, and Warren would lose, for different reasons. Klobuchar or Booker would stand a chance, i think. But of all of these “pre-vetted” options, I guess Whitmer’s in a strong position.

    But not Harris. It’ll be her, of course, if he does step back, but they’ll crucify her. It’ll be Clinton all over again, only she’s starting even less popular than Hillary was. I don’t think conservatives have quite the visceral hatred for her that they seem to have foot Hillary, and she’s less prone to sticking her foot in her mouth, but nobody likes her, either. At least Hillary appealed to progressive women.

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      At least Hillary appealed to progressive women.

      As a progressive woman, this is news to me.

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      I honestly don’t fully understand the Kamala hate. I know she was a prosecutor, but I don’t remember having a strong negative opinion of her in 2020.

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      Where’s Andrew Yang?

      #YangGang is a glimpse into the reality of the Democratic Party’s Asian American problem. (this isn’t the appropriate venue to actually discuss those issues; a quick Google search will quite contemporary results showing the trend).

      Yang has moved on and created the “Forward Party” which is working to gain ballot access at the local level in a handful of States.

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    I don’t do these polls. They are just a way to get a foot in the door to solicit donations. The majority of the time you can’t even complete them without pledging to donate.

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      Yes, they solicit donations. It doesn’t mean you have to donate. I do them to influence the party. Give me the policies I want, then I’ll donate.

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        They get their guiding information from real polls, collected by real people, over the phone or in person. There is no way they would rely on a crazy inaccurate web poll to gather any useful information. If you analyze these “polls” at all, you can easily see that they are barely disguised push-polls without any statistical value. They would be crazy to rely on them.

        I DO participate when an actual pollster conducting an actual scientific poll calls me,

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          I understand this. But the fact that a PAC is using disinterest for Biden to solicit donations is telling. I know that it won’t affect the party decision. But it is a way display dissatisfaction for those decisions.

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      ✅ Military experience. We may need a leader who knows first hand the danger they are putting our young men and women in.

      ✅ Governing experience (if you can be a community organizer, peanut farmer, or reality TV star, being a mayor is absolutely legitimate experience)

      ✅ Federal experience

      ✅ I’m gonna say it- in hindsight he managed the rail union strike amazingly well. He avoided a supply chain catastrophy, then a few months later got the union the sick time they need. He had his cake and ate it too.

      ✅ Medicare for those who want it is a realistic plan. It’s it perfect? No. But it’s better and more importantly can pass through Congress.

      I fully expect comments to fully support this take without any criticism for a center left candidate who doesn’t plan on tearing down capitalism brick by brick./s

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        Also, I’m gonna say it, I’d love to vote for a gay man. I’d love to see the GOP desperately try to bite their tongue knowing that the overwhelming majority of Americans wouldn’t support them saying “don’t vote for the f*****” which we all know they’d want to say so damn hard. You know they’d end up slipping up and showing their true colors which could help turn people away.

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        All of that and he does SO much better than any one else I’ve seen on interviews. If he isn’t president this year he’ll run in 2028.

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      We probably aren’t lucky enough to get three in a row.

      Also, he reminds me of David Rosen from Scandal, and it already feels too much like we’re living in that dystopia.

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        I’m not American and actually don’t know much about him but aside from the one glaring topic in that wiki, he sounds ok to me? Curious as to what shitty things he’s done if anyone feels like sharing.

        Editing to say: the one glaring topic is a pretty fucking important topic in my books, but I don’t imagine any other American politician with a chance having a different opinion on the matter

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          AFAIK he’s not done anything shity, which is why I want to keep him as my governor. He’s smart, dedicated, and has a good head on his shoulders.