With trump being guaranteed to win the 2024 election and it also being likely that the state will be much more violent, what do you think is going to happen in the US over the next few years?

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    Ukrainians and Russians are fundamentally the same people and their differences are an invention.

    Do enough racism and you can get coloured americans hating Chinese and Russians and basically any of america’s enemies enough to be youth fascists. Just scramble their brains. They are good, legal, american citizens. Not like those communist chiiiinese or dirty russian orcs.

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      How do they stop white USians from ruining the racial solidarity of the US? Even if uniting USians against the Chinese is technically possible, they still end up with the problem of internal racial contradictions as weak points in their racial coalition i.e. the inability to build a racial coalition against Vietnam “No Viet Cong Ever Called Me N*****”

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        The Vietnamese were never a threat to american lifestyles. If you can convince a Brit that the Polish or Romanian migrant affects is responsible for their living conditions deteriorating you can convince a black american that the Chinese are responsible for their living conditions and a material threat to their entire existence.

        Double down ideologically on capitalism-good and communism-bad while you’re at it and make it an existential battle between good and evil. Throw some religious elements into schools too.

        You can definitely do it if you make the counter narrative to this illegal enough. The rest can be achieved with beatings and terror.

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          The racial contradictions within the US mean superprofits are not redistributed to everyone. There’s whites and everyone else.

          I think the only way to create a unified “American” race is if the benefits of whiteness are extended beyond white people.

          And that’s going to require a conscious project from the ruling class.

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            They don’t have the time for that. I’m convinced that they will work faster with the intent of war within 10-15 from now. They will just aim to prep as many of the next school generation for it as possible. Maybe they don’t aim for racial unity, maybe they do muiltiple different approaches, one thing in the white parts of the country and another in the black parts of the country and another in the hispanic and latinx parts of the country.

            I suspect they lean in on pushing christianity really hard too.

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              I think if they do a blitz to promote colorismo over whiteness as the new racial situation they could maybe do it in ten years. It’s already an extant expression of racial sentiment and dominates the rest of the Americas, the US and Canada are just outliers that have preserved whiteness in its previous incarnation. It’s doable. It won’t be easy, though.

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                Where does China and Russia fit into this? Just have the colorismo spectrum be a black/brown/white spectrum and put the slavs and the chinese outside of it entirely as some variant of yellows/asiatics?

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                  I was more concerned with uniting the multiracial population of the US, actually leveraging racial sentiments against Asia would probably have to b its own project and is maybe unnecessary. Nativism might be enough if colorismo can topple white supremacy.

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              They support them as “one of the good ones” but they aren’t being welcomed into whiteness.

              Yet.

              If Trump rides a red wave into power and sweeps those anti-woke nonwhite candidates into positions of power it would do a lot to create the colorismo necessary to weaken the contradictions of whiteness. That’s what it’ll take - people in power consciously choosing to promote colorismo over whiteness and realign the racial hierarchy in the US. It can be done. It’s not simple.