It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.

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    Losing the app means that people can’t change the color of the light on the shoe. You can still do all the other shit manually.

    That said, I feel like companies should be required to open source shit like this once they drop support for it. Otherwise stuff like this adds to the mountains of e-waste poisoning the planet.

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    Companies really should just opensource their apps at this point, or at the very least publish their protocols.

    Can’t see how dropping apps and bricking devices benefits anyone.

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      A point could be made that it hurts the planet and they should be held responsible for their shenanigans.

      As with that spotify car thing.

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        Make a law that says, if you don’t keep supporting it you have to open source it. It’s just fair.

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          Yes, not gonna happen. You know how many new devices get sold simply because old ones are no longer getting updates/software support? It’s planned obsolescence. No modern country would pass a law like that.

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              Not sure which country you’re from, but I’ve basically lost the any hope I can influence any policy in my country with ANY attitude. I hope I’m wrong about other countries.

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                Look up “right to repair” laws. There are efforts all across the world to get them passed, and many of them have been successful. This is absolutely a thing that you can in fact make a difference on.

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      Agreed. Companies should be required by law to release source code, build guides, documentation and service architecture for services or apps that are required by hardware they sold.

      While there are bigger fish to fry at the moment, socially speaking, the problem is only going to get worse if legislators don’t step in.

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      But then you’d see it wasn’t secure in the slightest, and you could untie somebody’s laces when they walk past you.

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      Source code escrow is a thing, too. I’ve only seen it in the context of (as I understood it) protection against going out of business, but perhaps it could apply to discontinued products, as well?

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    Of all the overpriced bullshit people flock to for no reason other than to be suckers, sneakers are the one that made the least sense to me.

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      I talked to a bunch of sneaker heads over the years and i don’t think i’ll ever get it. I don’t like to shit on someone’s hobby, but buying shitty super overpriced sneakers made by slaves is a weird ass hobby.

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        Especially considering most of the time they likely won’t even wear the things because of either how much they cost or because they find them to be a collectors item.

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        Personally I’d rather buy the slaves. And set them free of course. Yes, of course.

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      The problem is that there are usually no other alternatives, or at least not any easily accessible. Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty.

      There should be a law against this. All hardware requiring an app should also have an open API.

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        Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty

        There are more often than not alternatives that exist that don’t have this requirement.

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      How did you post this comment?

      Were you using an app?

      Edit: humour is lost on the humourless

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        There isn’t one app to post to Lemmy, there’s a dozen. And they’re open source mostly. And there’s a web page. And you can self-host a fediverse node. And ActivityPub is an open standard. And and and.

        Now if this was Reddit, you might be closer to the mark.

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        How did you post this comment? // Were you using an app?

        Please refer to the context when interpreting what others say dammit. Your questions stink “ackshyually lol lmao” from a distance.

        The OP is talking about sneakers unnecessarily requiring an “app”; in this context, Farts’ “anything” should be interpreted as “physical goods” (like sneakers), not “internet services that may be accessed through a browser or specialised software” (like Lemmy).

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          I’m sorry oh mighty one.

          I’ll go and enjoy the pun over here while you try to figure out if what I wrote was intentionally funny or accidentally funny, or funny at all. Social ques are hard aren’t they.

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            You might have intended it to be funny, but it wasn’t, as it is clear from the downvotes. So instead of trying to convince everybody in multiple desperate comments that they are wrong, maybe just move on.

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              Ya a little late to the game buddy. Convo is a day old at this point.

              But thanks for trying

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            Cut off the crap.

            “Ackshyually I was totally joking! Yeah, it was a joke! You’re just too stupid to get the clue” doesn’t work if there’s no clue that it’s a joke on first place, no matter if you rephrase it with Reddit style passive aggressiveness.

            Please do everyone in Lemmy a favour and stay in Reddit. You’ll be in more suitable company.

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      It could have a button.

      But a button wouldnt give them all the permissions on your phone to harvest your data for sale and exploitation.

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      Because once their app is installed on your phone, they can send you push notification ads for their next great shoes.

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          I just bought a breathalyzer so I can know my BAC when out having a couple at happy hour and be safe to drive home. It works standalone because it has a button and screen, but all over the place it’s like “it has an app!!! It can connect to your phone!!!” who the fuck would ever want to do that?

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    Isn’t the point of self-lacing shoes that they shouldn’t require manual user input at all? What is the app for then?

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    So will there be a pirate app floating around for those who own these? Are there enough peeps who bought these for there to be interest in making one? Can’t be tough

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    Finally, they fixed shoe-tying. Now all I gotta do when I wanna tie my shoes is download an app and make sure my shoes are charged.

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    Back in our Business 101 class in university, we were supposed to come up with a new business idea and pitch it. We came up with a self-tying tie. Guess we weren’t too far off lol

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      Make it a subscription, say it has AI and you can start buying yachts

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        Add bonus features already installed on the shoe, but need an extra subscription. Maybe clips to connect them to your bike pedals, but it costs 4.99€/month to actually use that feature. Think about all the feature subscription you could sell for a good hiking shoe.

        (I really hope they won’t do this, but I can see them trying it.)

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    We need self tightening AI nuts and bolts. We could sell them to Boeing or something idk.

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    what happens if you are wearing these when the app gets shut off? 0.o