• lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    The source of the problem is crime (often due to poverty/gang culture) and mental health issues. If the source of the problem was gun owners there would be far more deaths. Millions of people own guns without ever harming anyone. Fixing healthcare so it’s accessible to people who need it, expanding social services, and fixing income inequality is the real solution.

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      4 months ago

      Unfortunately the people opposed to gun control are also typically opposed to all those things you mentioned.

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        Sure, but that doesn’t mean you should fight them for gun control instead of fighting them for the other things. You can instead advocate for those other things. Those other things are also easier tbh because they don’t require an amendment to the constitution to happen.

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          4 months ago

          Or we can fight for both since no one needs the kind of hardware that’s out there right now.

          Screw amendments, we can just argue that the second is referring to a person’s upper limbs. Besides, with the supreme court saying the president is above the law and states requiring the 10 commandments in schools, it’s pretty clear the Constitution doesn’t mean shit anyway.

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        There are 1.2 guns for every person in the united states and the homicide rate is 6.383 for every 100,000 people. It doesn’t break out homicides by guns vs. other methods but even if every homicide was using a gun that isn’t much of a correlation between gun ownership and murdering people. There are always other factors. If just guns made people commit homicide there would be bodies piled in the streets.

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      It’s also associated with domestic violence. Yes that’s a crime but it’s not the crime people are thinking of. And unfortunately that one is going to be the tricky one to resolve

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        I think that would fall under expanding social services, either to give the abusee options to remove themselves from the situation or get the abuser into counseling early on before it gets more serious or a combination of the two. Personally I think a lot of violent assholes could be sorted out if everyone had to take counseling in high school and learn methods of dealing with their shit.