LLMs certainly hold potential, but as we’ve seen time and time again in tech over the last fifteen years, the hype and greed of unethical pitchmen has gotten way out ahead of the actual locomotive. A lot of people in “tech” are interested in money, not tech. And they’re increasingly making decisions based on how to drum up investment bucks, get press attention and bump stock, not on actually improving anything.

The result has been a ridiculous parade of rushed “AI” implementations that are focused more on cutting corners, undermining labor, or drumming up sexy headlines than improving lives. The resulting hype cycle isn’t just building unrealistic expectations and tarnishing brands, it’s often distracting many tech companies from foundational reality and more practical, meaningful ideas.

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    Bacon on Ice Cream works, but the Ice Cream Machine at McDonald’s don’t

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    Mc Donald’s already has customer self serve kiosks and mobile apps with the full menu that limit you as to which items you can add or remove.

    How did they screw this up and leave things open ended for the LLM?

    IE why was the LLM not referencing a list of valid options with every request and then replying with what the possible options are. This is something LLMs are actually able to do fairly well, then layer on top the EXACT same HARD constraints they already have on the kiosk and mobile app to ensure orders are valid?

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      That wouldn’t even need AI. Thats just a fancy switch statement with a pleasant voice.

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        An LLM can somewhat smooth over variances in language without having to have all possible variances known just the valid options and the raw input.

        • I would like a Big Mac, no lettuce, no tomato, no cheese.
        • I would like a Big Mac, no vegies, hold the cheese.
        • I would like a Big Mac, no vegies, no dairy
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            Natural language is really messy… Could go through many variants on things. Then you get text to speech issues due to audio quality / accents… And you need an engine that can “best guess / best match” based on what it has or ask for clarification.

            Similarly you can ask for TWO of a complex thing: I would like Two… meals, with, XXXX

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        That’s the joke. Nearly every proposed implementation of AI isn’t actually solving a real business or tech problem. It’s just the next snake oil, like block chain, quantum computing, etc. There are real, valid use cases for all of those things. But most companies have no idea what they really are, how they might help, and even if they could help, what it would take to implement to see real results.

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        The self serve terminals and apps actually work well. I prefer using them over ordering at the counter.

        So ya I am surprised they rolled this out so poorly.

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      Because most people, including those implementing this shit, have no idea how LLMs work, or their limitations. I see it every day at my job. I have given up trying to patiently explain why they are having issues.

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    Five Guys does milkshakes with bacon. I’d think that bacon ice cream would work.

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    A buddy of mine made bacon ice cream once, but um… I think they did it wrong. It was bad. Really really bad.

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      A local sandwich shop used to have maple bacon ice cream sandwiches during the summer and they were epic. Your buddy definitely did something wrong.

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    I think we are about to experience a true Butlerian Jihad. Not because of the fearsome power of AI, but because of the hatred of shitty LLMs.

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    Denny’s offers this. Or use to.

    Im pretty sure this is a click bait headline since a certain percentage of people see the appeal of bacon on vanilla ice cream.

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    theres a cute programm, call the goblin chef. if you feed it ingredients, along with amounts, and numbers of people to cook for, it spits out some neat recipes.

    But it specifically warns you that it cant actually taste things. If you list ice and bacon, it’ll probably combine those two into a dish. (although now i doesnt recognize “one fresh kitten” as an ingredient anymore q.q)

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      Bacon and ice cream go great together and I refuse to pretend they don’t.

      I still miss midnight snack ice cream. Potato chips covered in chocolate. Delicious

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      I’m pretty sure some of those fancy restaurants that pop up everywhere already do this. They’ll put bacon on anything

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    I mean, even Google AI says it’s not bad, and in concept I kinda agree. I’ve had bacon donuts before and it was legit

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    Well, what’s the problem. They have bacon and they have ice cr… oh I see the error now. Just add a generic response the ice cream machine is broken and move on!

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    Damn… I guess they gonna have to hire shiti organics still to sell that disgusting slop?!

    Womp womp

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    Those mistakes would be easily solved by something that doesn’t even need to think. Just add a filter of acceptable orders, or hire a low wage human who does not give a shit about the customers special orders.

    In general, AI really needs to set some boundaries. “No” is a perfectly good answer, but it doesn’t ever do that, does it?

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      Those mistakes would be easily solved by something that doesn’t even need to think. Just add a filter of acceptable orders, or hire a low wage human who does not give a shit about the customers special orders.

      That wouldn’t address the bulk of the issue, only the most egregious examples of it.

      For every funny output like “I asked for 1 ice cream, it’s giving me 200 burgers”, there’s likely tens, hundreds, thousands of outputs like “I asked for 1 ice cream, it’s giving 1 burger”, that sound sensible but are still the same problem.

      It’s simply the wrong tool for the job. Using LLMs here is like hammering screws, or screwdriving nails. LLMs are a decent tool for things that you can supervision (not the case here), or where a large amount of false positives+negatives is not a big deal (not the case here either).

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      sure it does. it won’t tell you how to build a bomb or demonstrate explicit biases that have been fine tuned out of it. the problem is McDonald’s isn’t an AI company and probably is just using ChatGPT on the backend, and GPT doesn’t give a shit about bacon ice cream out of the box.

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        They really should have used a genetic algorithm to optimise their menu items for maximum customer satisfaction profits instead of using an LLM!

        The execs do know other algorithms than LLMs exist right?

        EDIT: prob replied to wrong thread