• Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world
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    This bullshit was basically my first experience with Windows 11 when I got a new PC last year. Literally, “Why is my internet so slow? What’s this OneDrive thing? Oh, holy shit fucking stop Jesus Christ!”

    Just automatically started uploading everything on my hard drive to an account I didn’t set up, without even a prompt telling me it was happening, and no obvious way to make it stop. I didn’t even know Windows had added a cloud storage option. I actually had to completely uninstall OneDrive to finally make it stop.

    I might have liked having a native backup service in Windows if it was like, “Hey look at this handy cloud storage tool we’ve added to Windows! Would you like to pick some files to save?” But as it is, it might as well just be another piece of spyware.

    There’s a big long list of reasons why I hate Windows 11, but this OneDrive shit is the thing that’s making me think maybe it’s time to ditch Windows for good.

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      The extra fun part is when it starts removed at you for filling up the cloud storage allotment that you didn’t know you were using.

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          Or the fact that once it’s off of your hard drive and sitting comfortably on their cloud (their hard drive), they can scan it and harvest it for data.

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          OMG this happened to a colleague of mine and they deleted the files from OneDrive without realizing they weren’t on their hard drive anymore 🤦

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        Thankfully I noticed what was going on before it got to that point, but when they start vacuuming up all your files and data like that without telling you and without giving you control over it, you kind of have to assume that whatever is going on is not being done for your benefit.

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        The extra extra fun part is to then offer you the opportunity to pay for bigger storage!

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          I got a great idea.

          While we’re sucking up every single file, let’s also do daily, non incremental backups

          We’ll hit the free storage limit it no time and then we can start sending DIRE messages about how the users data won’t be PROPERLY backed up anymore.

          Then we can upsell them in an outrageously priced storage plan that won’t even last a year of these daily backups so we can start the process over again.

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        It’d be hilarious if they did that but your paid for space was too low so they had to cut you off but they had already taken the liberty to delete the files before they synched

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      What’s the big deal? Microsoft security is top notch. They totally didn’t get p0vvN3d by russia basically twenty minutes ago and have their source code stolen.

      It’s why the US gummit is so happy to use micro$quash services.

      And y’know even then, who cares if all your data is stolen by state-sponsored cyber crime groups, y’know? M$ has spared no expense to ensure all that data is secured end-to-end with unbreakable encryption even microsoft can’t read! (snkk) Even if they wanted to!

      It’s not like they’ve tricked everyone into being data cattle for their giant cloud-ranching operation, to shovel everything into AI and sell the results to anyone at the highest price possible. I mean. We’d have heard something about that if it was the case.

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      Mean while on windows 10, they are forcing updates with a creepy splash screen when you boot up. Can’t exit, can’t stop it, basically held hostage. This was on my old surface pro 4. Then the update screwsed everything up and I had to do a system restore…shits bad 👎

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        I’ve installed Linux on my dad’s surface 2. He’s more than happy, I bassicaly could’nt do anything with it because how slow Windows had became.

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          Been running Windows 10 on my gaming desktop for a while now and refusing to “upgrade” to 11 because of how much worse it was. Going to be doing a hardware refresh in a couple months and when I do I’m installing Linux. Thanks to Valve and a few major open source projects Linux gaming has finally reached a point where I can tell MS to fuck off with their enshitification.

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            My computer doesn’t support Win11, so I have that going for me. Transitioning to the Steam Deck for my gaming, which has been a slow but mostly positive process. Some of the games don’t play well outside of Windows, but none of the ones I really want to play, and I can always switch to my computer if I do.

            I don’t think I’ll ever own a Win11 computer.

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      Oh god, you reminded me. I had a run in with this recently because my parents got new laptops. 1TB hard drive, should be plenty right? NO! My mom had 15GB of files in her home folders and One Drive was whining constantly to pay them for more space.

      It was about an hour of debugging to keep the files safe, extract One Drive from the home folder locations because it had dug in like a virus, and then (after 20 online searches and scouring forums) click the specific toggle in the specific menu to disable One Drive so it would use local files.

      I paid for a 1TB computer, why are you forcing me to use your shitty online-only limited-space shit show. Fucks sake.

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        I mean specifically a cloud storage account. Setting up the computer required me to supply an email address and set a password for microsoft.com. There was nothing in that process that I recall mentioning OneDrive, or that would have suggested every file on my C drive was about to be indiscriminately uploaded to a Microsoft server somewhere. I didn’t even know OneDrive was a thing until I had to google how to stop it.

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      I was having a conversation in another thread a few days ago about the legality of completely fictional AI child porn and how that may be a safer outlet for those individuals as it involves no harm.

      It’s legal in many countries, but also not legal in many countries.

      In the USA, federal law says as long as its not obscene or has serious value its allowed, but really, good luck with those clauses. Then it says, it’s also legal unless it’s been transmitted by a common carrier, e.g mail, internet.

      So, someone might be legally making their own CP so they don’t need to cause any abuse, and then Windows without their permission, uploads it to OneDrive.

      You know the person making fictional CP would be the one thrown in jail for transmitting it over a common carrier, but maybe we should throw Microsoft in jail for doing that without permission and fucking us all over, over and over and over again with all this bullshit

      They’re literally stealing your files. They’re probably training their AI on anything uploaded to OneDrive. It’s not like they even prompted you or gave you the ToS.

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        yea well there is no way to guarantee that AI wont spew out CP where the child there looks exactly like a child that it has seen in its training set, i.e a child that really exists. so no go

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        “fictional AI CP” isn’t a thing. AI is trained on existing data. It does not create new stuff. If you want AI to generate CP then you have to train it on CP.

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          The same way the pictures of ninja dinosaurs can only be trained on actual photos of ninja dinosaurs, right?

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          AI can create faces and bodies that have never existed. From there it might just take a lot of prompt engineering, but to say you have to train it on CP is false.

          Edit: Also that’s only considering life like CP. There’s the whole cartoon/manga side of things which IS purely fictional at all times but will get you sent to prison if transmitted over an open carrier.

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            Can create faces that have never existed, but can you guarantee that the child in a CP that it has created does not look identical to a child that already exists? after all it can very well produce something using children directly from or very similar to its training set.