• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Throughout human history, laws have never stopped conservatism. Jails have never stopped conservatism. Pacifism has never stopped conservatism. Only force has ever stopped conservatism. Only force.

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        People get called that when they’re pretending to be far left while urging everyone to take the exact actions the Repubs want them to take.

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            5 months ago

            that would be people who are essentially voting for trump, so yeah, why not.

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            Tankie is the pro-authoritarian left. The Stalinists essentially. The ones who think it’s appropriate to send in the tanks to quell a socialist or communist uprising because it has a tint of democracy in it, which may cause their strong leader to lose dictatorial power.

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            It’s code for “antifascist” “leftists” who are urging people to do the exact same things that the Republican party wants them to do.

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                If you’re upset about being called a tankie, you could cross-reference what you are urging people to do with what the Republican party wants people to do. And then stop that.

                In general I would recommend being antifascist in a way that isn’t the exact same actions as overt fascism with the only difference being the rhetoric justifying the actions.

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                    Fuck if I know. You’re whining about being called a tankie. I can explain why that happens in general. You’ll have to figure the rest out on your own. Maybe if you do some reading and educate yourself you can get there.

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        Tankies are literal authoritarians. People say they’re “authoritarian communists,” which ignores they’re mostly Maoists or Stalinists, both of whom were closer to fascism than the left. It sort of ignores the basic premise of communism or even socialism to have a single authoritarian ruler. Kind of like how the Nazis called themselves socialists. I guess they were a workers’ party to start, but I don’t think you can reasonably conflate their ideology with the tenets of socialism.

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          No, you don’t understand. The problem is that those people haven’t had enough time to bring upon real communism. Real communism hasn’t been reached yet. They want to let the Maos and Stalins of the world have enough time to reach communism. Things will surely be different with the next guy.

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            Trump is just Stalin and mai with less power.

            There is no difference between authoritarianism at either end of the spectrum.

            The issue with authoritarianism isn’t “communism or fascism” it’s a symptom of shitty PEOPLE NOT TYPE OF GOVERNMENT.

            STalin wasn’t a shithead BECAUSE he was commumist, but in spite of it.

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          The Nazis only used the label socialists to deceive the working class. They said so plenty of times when meeting with the industrialists whose bidding they were doing. They never were a workers party and they knew that it was only in name to be more palatable. This deception now has been replaced with “owning the libs” and whatever the local version of neoliberal, conservative or fascist ideology you have around the world.

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          What’s Stalinism 🤔

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        Tankies these days are conservatives wrapped in an authoritarian shell. Instead of just being supportive of their own authoritarian government they try to destabilize other governments for their gain.