• davelA
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    5 months ago

    I’d like to work with Clojure, but I have a (perhaps irrational) dislike of the JVM, so I tend to keep an eye on Clojure dialects/descendants.

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      5 months ago

      The JVM can be a bit of a resource hog, but it works well for stuff like web services which is what I mostly work on. That said, I highly recommend checking out babashka https://github.com/babashka/babashka

      It’s a graal compiled Clojure runtime that has a small memory footprint and instant startup. I’ve been using it a lot for scripting, and making small web apps like dashboards and it’s been pretty nice, here’s an example https://lemmy.ml/post/15390028

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        5 months ago

        There’s also some kind of experiment going on where a JVM runtime is preloaded with Clojure, and that JVM & runtime is somehow frozen, packaged and deployed as an executable, thus eliminating the very high Clojure startup cost. I don’t remember where I saw this, unfortunately.

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          5 months ago

          Yeah, there’s been some work for speeding up clj running on the regular JVM, but I find it never really gets much interest. I think most people use clj for stuff like web services that are long running, and locally develop via the REPL so restarts aren’t common.

          One project worth watching is Jank, it aims to be mostly compatible but running on LLVM, still not quite production ready, but seems to have some community funding and being developed pretty actively https://jank-lang.org/