I want to state up first I get it, I’m on the right side, most of these men are awful, and every man-o-sphere influence is awful. Andrew Tate belongs in a 6 foot deep hole, or a hole in the back of his head. Joe Rogan should be sent to the Hague.

But when dudes complain, even about genuine issues, we have a tendency to just attack them for it. If a guy complains that being short can kinda suck (and it can. More so than just getting girls, it can hurt your career and everything.) People, even leftists, tend to just call them a sad manlet or something. Same thing with dudes complaining they can’t get a girlfriend, are they not alienated under capitalism? I’m not saying we have to coddle the incels, but we could do better at presenting a future, a better one, maybe?

The discourse about height, and dick size, are both stupid but here (in this safe space) can I admit that there’s a point to both? They affect people, it’s a real thing.

And back to the Joe Rogan’s, I feel bad that men and boys get sucked into that. I have some pity for them, these desperate losers.

Anyways, Im sure I’m going to think this is dumb, but I just can’t help but feel like there’s a gigantic community of extremely disaffected people that while I mostly loathe, I also really feel bad for. I don’t think it would’ve taken much to push me there, I grew up in a good environment with some good role models, but without that, left to the wolves, I’m as susceptible to the grifters as everyone is.

  • Vampire [any]@hexbear.net
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    The correct take is “Men and women are both suffering”

    Men have some serious problems, like being more likely to be victims of violence and getting harsher prison sentences for the same crimes.

    When stats show blacks get harsher prison sentences or suffer more violence, we’d rightly call it an injustice.

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      2 years ago

      Yeah, for sure. I think men simply don’t get taught or given the tools to express the pain put on them by alienation without turning to the worst scape goats, women understand how patriarchy hurts them but men don’t. Men get that the height thing is hurtful but they don’t really band together to change results.