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      Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War (the Chinese War of Resistance) in the lead-up to Asias involvement in WWII.

      The Rape of Ninjing and Unit 731 are just two of the atrocities we know of.

      Implying that Japan is now “back for more” and with frens this time is indeed pretty dark.

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        I think that’s probably true - Japan has such a sanitized reputation now (which, frankly, isn’t entirely deserved), and most people probably don’t ever take a history class after high school, so a lot of people probably genuinely don’t know how bad it was. I did a little over 3 years of an undergrad history major and never heard a word about it. The only reason I know anything about it is because my AP US History teacher in high school told a few of us about it after a class on WWII. I had nightmares about some of the pictures for a few nights. I see why they don’t generally teach it to kids.

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          Let me correct you, only otakus didn’t known. Japan is known to be worst than germany in thoses old times

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          The funny thing about John Rabe is that he was probably the only Nazi in any sort of power after The Night of the Long Knives to think they were still a socialist party, because he was off chilling in China and everyone forgot about him.

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        Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War

        Unless if you’re from Asia.

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        Let’s not forget the entire colonization of Korea.

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          Imagine if Germany still used the Nazi flag.

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            Their Navy flag predates the rise of State Shinto and Imperial Japan. It’s not really the same thing

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              The swastika predates Nazi Germany, but is forever tarnished by it. In Asia, the flag of Imperial Japan is often seen as a symbol of fascism, Imperialism, and war crimes.

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                There are actually efforts to reclaim the swastika for cultural reasons predating the Nazis. It’s not hard to tell a Nazi swastika from a Hindu one

                Behind the Bastards did a two part episode on the history of it.

                I know what the Rising Sun flag means in Asia. I’m just saying that they’re not quite the same thing.

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                  More power to them for trying to reclaim it! It was stolen anyways.

                  The difference with Imperial Japan is that the flag is still being used by the same group that committed war crimes. The Rising Sun can’t simply be reclaimed, unlike the Swastika.

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    with frens

    I think this needs an asterisk, pretty sure South Korea and the Philippines would be happy if Japan and China somehow simultaneously destroyed each other.

    Edit: astrix to asterisk. Sorry, English isn’t my first language. I mean it’s been my primary for nearly 30 years, but it’s still a removed sometimes.

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    It’s a nice meme but their population is turning geriatric, and they’re literally unable to pass any policies to make the birth rate go up.

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    Isn’t fren one of those words used by 4chan as a dogwhistle? Feels a bit icky when talking about WW2 Japan

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      urban dictionary says it stands Far-Right-Ethno-Nationalist turns out you’re probably right. But I like saying frens 😅

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          Originating from 4chan means it occupies a little of both.

          For example: 4chan intentionally trolled mainstream American media to make the ‘ok’ finger gesture be white supremacist, because it wasn’t a symbol. But then the media reported it was a symbol AND white supremacists started using it. So the ‘ok’ symbol now being a white supremacist symbol is quite real.

          Any amount of sewage in a soup makes the soup sewage. Only question is was the soup made with sewage or was the sewage added later. This meme being related to current events indicates the likelihood the creator is aware of the connotation as ‘high.’

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      It meant friend long before that

      If you dilute their ability to use it as a dog whistle then it loses the ability to

      The okay symbol worked because people typically didn’t use it that often

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      What is this tankie happy hour? All of you fucks came into the thread at the exact same time.

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        Just that the Chinese never miss an opportunity to hate the Japanese. Especially when the meme brings up the PLA