• maegul (he/they)M
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    6 months ago

    yep, it truly is a classic.

    As for getting another film like it, obviously it’s really a sub-genre of its own, so anything too close is just a copy/clone.

    But as for what generally makes it a classic, I’d venture (off of the top of my head) that what Ridley Scott himself says is pretty on the mark: B grade horror done like A grade film. More generally, it’s the rendering of something that’s remained “under-produced” and exclusive to a sub-culture into a higher-production and dramatically serious and high-caliber form.

    If that’s part of it, then it’s interesting to ask what other films have done that. Suggestions, off the top of my head:

    • The Matrix comes immediately to mind (anime, cyberpunk, hong-kong martial arts films done as a Hollywood blockbuster).
    • 2001 A Space Odyssey probably counts (I’m not really sure how Sci-Fi was viewed before 1968).
    • Lord of the Rings (high fantasy, though I wonder if Star Wars is the real predecessor of this?)
    • Comic book movies probably count to some extent here (Burton’s Batman, Nolan’s Batman and the first Iron Man?), but I’m loathe to include them because I think they’re all kinda derivative of the above, with Burton’s Batman probably being an exception but also not so much of a perfection of content and form that Alien and the above were.
    • Pulp Fiction?
    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      You’re thinking too much about modern films. Alien builds on classic suspense murder movies like Alfred Hitchcock. The suspense and dread is worse than the actual killing. In Psycho they don’t even show a knife stabbing anyone.

      • maegul (he/they)M
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        6 months ago

        And the Space Jockey, Alien design and chestburster aren’t part of it? Cuz we are certainly shown the chestburster and definitely see the Alien!

        In suggesting “modern films” for the idea of “films making niche things dramatic, serious and mainstream” … they were just the suggestions off of the top my head.