Jerry Seinfeld’s week of difficult appearances continues, this time in Virginia.

As soon as Seinfeld took the stage for a stand-up comedy set at Chrysler Hall in Norfolk on Saturday night, a man in the audience jumped up and yelled, “Free Gaza,” TMZ reported. The audience immediately began booing the heckler and chanting “Jerry! Jerry!” as another bystander wrestled the protester into a headlock.

Security escorted the man out of the building, but the show was interrupted by other protesters eight times throughout its 90-minute run.

The controversy around Seinfeld’s views stems from his vocal support of Israel — which he visited following the Oct. 7 attacks — and his wife’s $5,000 donation to a GoFundMe for pro-Israel counterprotesters at UCLA after a late April protest turned violent.

Seinfeld didn’t seem bothered by the interruptions, telling the crowd not to boo the man because he had a right to protest.

“This is exciting. I like this,” the comic said as the original protester was escorted out of the venue. “I like a little Jew hate to spice up the show.”

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    If Palestine became its own state tomorrow, with Gaza and the West Bank, and Israel did everything right as of tomorrow (a big ask, I know), do you think Israel would continue to suffer attacks? For how long? Do you think continued violence is justified because of what Israel is doing now?

    I’m interested in a path to peace, but I don’t see one. I don’t like “free Gaza” because what does that even look like?

    If it’s just short for “stop genocide” then fine. But I don’t see what it can mean past that.

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      just to clarify, you realize that there was a path to peace, and then Likud/Netanyahu decided to actively help fund and support Hamas to undermine Palestine as a stable state. Specifically to avoid having to give Palestinians statehood (and a democratic vote)?

      that to this day, there are significant numbers of Palestinians who do not have a voice in any form of government.

      I don’t know what the path to peace now looks like - the conflict has gone longer than I’ve been alive. They came close and the powers that were decided they didn’t like that, so they fucked the entire region over. the Hamas attack on oct7- while definitely to be blamed on Hamas- is a direct result of those actions.

      I don’t know where we’d be had they not taken action to support Hamas over other groups… but it’s very clear both the Israeli far right and Hamas are willing participants in a war that’s mostly just killing civilians. So, the first step absolutely has to be to stop the violence and restore sanity, and then we can get back to working to a more lasting peace.

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        just to clarify, you realize that there was a path to peace

        Awhile ago, shaky, but maybe.

        then Likud/Netanyahu decided to actively help fund and support Hamas to undermine Palestine as a stable state.

        Absolutely. Also to scare their own citizens into supporting them. He didn’t intentionally let Oct 7th happen, but Hamas isn’t a pet to be toyed with, either. He used them as a boogyman, empowered them, and then was surprised when they did a small part of what they had threatened to do.

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          You understand that but say “Israel will continue to get attacked” like that justifies not letting them be free? And Israel is absolutely free to defend itself, but killing more more journalists in a few months than have ever been killed in any single war, evacuating people then bombing the refugee camps, targeting aid workers, and shooting unarmed civilians in the west bank (where there is no combat) is not self defense.

          People shit on America for Iraq and Afghanistan, and yeah, those were pretty fucking bad. Somehow Israel is managing to be worse. Objectively, provably worse.

          The Washington Post, citing Marc Garlasco, a military adviser at the Dutch organization PAX for Peace, reported that Israel is “dropping in less than a week what the US was dropping in Afghanistan in a year, in a much smaller, much more densely populated area, where mistakes are going to be magnified.”

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            People shit on America for Iraq and Afghanistan, and yeah, those were pretty fucking bad. Somehow Israel is managing to be worse. Objectively, provably worse.

            At least 35,647 people have been killed and 79,852 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7. The death toll in Israel from Hamas’s October 7 attack is 1,139 with dozens still held captive. Source

            460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence.

            You’re saying 36 thousand deaths is worth than 460 thousand deaths. I’m not saying what Israel is doing is justified, but it’s a hell of a lot more justified than whatever the fuck we were doing in Iraq.

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          You sure they didn’t let it happen?

          The IDF is one of the most capable and well-equipped militaries in the world.

          They had reports of training activity. They had been warned by several parties, but the attack still managed.

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      You don’t see a path to peace because you believe most Gazan’s want to kill all Israelis.

      A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

      You’re either so incredibly biased you don’t see your own bias while congratulating yourself on how open minded you are, or you’re intentionally trying to lie in a subtle manner to try and sway others.

      Given the maliciousness of posting a fake source to claim a non-existent genocidal desire OF A POPULATION CURRENTLY BEING GENOCIDED, I’m guessing the later.

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        A claim, I might add, that you state as fact and then post links to the supposed source that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

        You’re right. Maybe 72% of Palestinians are misunderstood. Maybe they only wanted to drag specific Israelis out of their safehouses in the only neighborhoods they could reach and beat and murder and kidnap those people, but not the rest. They really were going to stop right when the IDF happened to show up. What a coincidence.

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          A besieged populations support of a military operation that had a lower percentage of civilian deaths by at least two, possibly three, orders of magnitude compared to Israels actions over the last 7 months is a far cry from asking people if they support the slaughter of every Israeli, and you know it.

          By that same level of evidence and logic, a higher percentage of Israelis want the entire slaughter of the Gazan population.

          I will also point out that there is a secondary form of justice for Palestinian people in the west bank and East Jerusalem then there are for the settlers. Palestinian children frequently get arrested (read kidnapped) and sentenced by a military tribunal with no evidence. Whereas the settlers use the IDF as armed guards while they try to ethnically cleanse villages from the west bank, and if they do get arrested they have a jury trial with standards of evidence. To me, those 15,000 Palestinian prisoners are not prisoners, but hostages.

          Prisoner vs hostage
          Arrest vs kidnap
          Support for a military action vs desire for genocide

          It’s all in the words you use, isn’t it?

          Thanks for revealing yourself as a subtle genocide defender. I really was curious which one you were.

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            I really was curious which one you were.

            I’m glad you were able to make the situation so black and white.

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              It really is.

              Any country that intentionally withholds food, medicine, and potable water from a population it considers undesirable is a government intentionally committing genocide.

              Is genocide ever justified is a yes or no question. Only one answer makes you a monster

              You lied about the results of a survey to imply something the survey didn’t ask in order to slander a population being genocided.

              Furthermore, you defended that lie with a self-righteous tirade rather than acknowledging your lie.

              It’s rather beside the point but there are multiple surveys of the Gazan population that asks the questions you lied about and came out with a much different conclusion.