Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) on Monday defended the International Criminal Court (ICC) for seeking arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav…
I wonder how much of Biden’s outrage is because of support for Bibi, and how much of it is because the ICC could start issuing warrant for US presidents?
The US already has a law in place that stipulates that the president can use all means necessary, including military action, to release any US personnel that have been arrested by the ICC.
They aren’t afraid that the ICC is going to issue a warrant for a US president. Because they can just park their aircraft carriers in the North Sea near The Hague beach and invade Dutch airspace. And what is the EU going to do in that case? US already has troops and equipment on EU soil.
While they can do so, that’s a very effective way to permanently destroy relations between the EU and the US. The US will be unable to effectively project power onto both Europe and the Middle East once the military bases in Europe are closed down in the aftermath. It will be the US’s biggest loss in soft power since its founding.
I’m not sure who this propaganda is supposed to appeal towards? The dividing lines between the old Cold War states have sharpened considerably. Biden and Putin can’t really do anything wrong, from within their own camps. Its always “Whataboutism” and “You people don’t understand what’s at stake” to dismiss the incoherent contradiction of their respective policies.
Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda when he questioned the legitimacy of the ICC arrest warrants and implicitly accused them of playing politics - which is basically Putin’s line. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.
Who is being propagandized? Everyone’s already picked their side.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.
I seriously doubt it, if for no other reason than any number of armed and extremely angry Ukrainian partisans are gunning for him everywhere he goes. But at some point, countries like South Africa, India, and Brazil are going to be asked to turn down diplomats from an enthusiastic new partner by British or American scald complaining about international norms.
To quote the Kenyan Ambassador Dr Lubinda Haabazoka,
Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.
The USA have a law that they have to send the military to Den Haag in case the ICC tries to prosecute any US Soldiers or officials: ASPA or the Hague Invasion Act.
Probably a mix of both. This is an issue that Biden us actually ideological on, he is genuinely a zionist. But he also has that habitual conservative infatuation with the status quo and sitting on fences.
I wonder how much of Biden’s outrage is because of support for Bibi, and how much of it is because the ICC could start issuing warrant for US presidents?
The US already has a law in place that stipulates that the president can use all means necessary, including military action, to release any US personnel that have been arrested by the ICC.
They aren’t afraid that the ICC is going to issue a warrant for a US president. Because they can just park their aircraft carriers in the North Sea near The Hague beach and invade Dutch airspace. And what is the EU going to do in that case? US already has troops and equipment on EU soil.
While they can do so, that’s a very effective way to permanently destroy relations between the EU and the US. The US will be unable to effectively project power onto both Europe and the Middle East once the military bases in Europe are closed down in the aftermath. It will be the US’s biggest loss in soft power since its founding.
ICC arrest warrants are not about actually detaining people, Bibi won’t end up in the Hague either.
The point is isolation. If the US president would get convicted, they wouldn’t be able to attend a G7 summit anymore for example.
The Netherlands could invoke NATO article 5, no?
100% the former. Biden supported the ICC until it started going after his pal. Now he just gave Putin a propaganda freebie.
The U.S. has an infamous history of obstructing the ICC otherwise the previous 3 president’s would be potentially facing war crimes charges.
The US and Israel are rogue states. The same as we like accusing Russia, Iran, and North Korea of being.
I’m not sure who this propaganda is supposed to appeal towards? The dividing lines between the old Cold War states have sharpened considerably. Biden and Putin can’t really do anything wrong, from within their own camps. Its always “Whataboutism” and “You people don’t understand what’s at stake” to dismiss the incoherent contradiction of their respective policies.
Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda when he questioned the legitimacy of the ICC arrest warrants and implicitly accused them of playing politics - which is basically Putin’s line. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.
Who is being propagandized? Everyone’s already picked their side.
I seriously doubt it, if for no other reason than any number of armed and extremely angry Ukrainian partisans are gunning for him everywhere he goes. But at some point, countries like South Africa, India, and Brazil are going to be asked to turn down diplomats from an enthusiastic new partner by British or American scald complaining about international norms.
To quote the Kenyan Ambassador Dr Lubinda Haabazoka,
The USA have a law that they have to send the military to Den Haag in case the ICC tries to prosecute any US Soldiers or officials: ASPA or the Hague Invasion Act.
I’m pretty sure the dutch government has laws making such an invasion illegal.
I think everyone has laws making invasions illegal, that does not seem to mean anything to the attackers.
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I’m pretty sure NATO exists to make such an invasion illegal.
No, wars between members are not covered under NATO
Huh. Now I know that the world isn’t as safe as I presumed it to be.
Probably a mix of both. This is an issue that Biden us actually ideological on, he is genuinely a zionist. But he also has that habitual conservative infatuation with the status quo and sitting on fences.