• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    All ideas stem from material conditions

    but just as matter shapes humans, humans reshape matter, which reshape humans who repeat the process.

    You’re FAR too fixated on matter. How old are you again? Did you recently read philosophy for the first time and it just so happened to be of a materialist nature? Because you’re very much giving off that “child repeating things they don’t understand” vibe.

    That’s the driving force of history.

    Nope. It’s MUCH more varied and complex than just people interacting with matter.

    It’s absurd to think that ideas change matter without material changes.

    Not anymore absurd than your extreme oversimplification of the concepts of knowledge and opinion.

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      1 month ago

      It is absolutely absurd to think that matter changes depending on how you percieve it. You’re deeply unserious.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        IDEAS change depending on how you perceive them. Matter isn’t always involved at all. Not everything is arranged in neat rows to fit your silly pet theory.

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          1 month ago

          And your perception is based on matter, yes. The outputs are made of inputs.

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            1 month ago

            I’m beginning to think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding at play here. Could you do me a favor and define exactly what you mean by “matter”?

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              1 month ago

              Matter. Existing mass.

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                1 month ago

                So you ARE talking about physical matter as the foundation of all ideas?

                Alrighty then, no reason for me to keep wasting my time trying to talk you out of your delusion. Have a nice day.

                • Cowbee
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                  1 month ago

                  Ideas are not made of magic.