Proton Pass is an open source, end-to-end encrypted password manager app. Create and store passwords, email aliases, 2FA codes, and notes on all your devices
Proton is starting to loose focus in my opinion. I’ve been a costumer for 5 years only using email and I moved this year to fastmail and I couldn’t be happier.
Unlimited emails alias, good apps, ability to use thunderbird without a self hosted bridge.
The promise of a encrypted email does not work if your contacts are not on proton too (for me was 100% of my contacts).
If you are really focused on privacy you would choose nextcloud for cloud for example and keypass or Bitwarden for password managers.
I would like them to focus on email client features and stop this side hustles.
Fortunately, I don’t have the same experiences as you. I mean, sure, I’ve encountered bugs in the Android app, but I’ve never lost any files with my selfhosted Nextcloud server.
Setting up the Nextcloud server and optimizing it was quite a big hassle for me (took an entire afternoon), but after it was all done, I was pretty happy with it.
No, the web UI is quite slow and that probably won’t change, but the caldav server and the Windows Desktop app work perfect. The automatic upload of media on my (Android) phone has no issues at all.
In my experience, the most issues are with the web UI due to its bad performance, but besides that, it works perfectly.
Proton is not “losing focus”, you just have a misunderstanding as to what Proton is. If all you want is a free email provider, you’ve made the wrong choice with Proton. Proton is enhanced privacy and security, and with that, you’re going to make some minor sacrifices in convenience (MailBridge).
The promise of a encrypted email does not work if your contacts are not on proton too (for me was 100% of my contacts).
It absolutely does work. It limits your attack surface. In other words, if someone wanted to get your information, they couldn’t hack into and decrypt your emails, they would have to hack into the accounts of everyone you ever emailed, or whomever you emailed that they want the information from.
While many of their products are undercooked and slow to develop, the email client works extremely well, in my opinion, complete with many features that even the most popular email provider in the world (GMail) lacks. You know, like, being able to block people. And filters that actually work to organize the 40958323490 daily emails I receive against my will.
Currently Proton Pass is pretty bad, but I’m using it anyway because it’s “good enough” to delete 1 more subscription/account (1Password). If you can believe them there is lots of development and features that will be available in only a few weeks.
Proton is starting to loose focus in my opinion. I’ve been a costumer for 5 years only using email and I moved this year to fastmail and I couldn’t be happier. Unlimited emails alias, good apps, ability to use thunderbird without a self hosted bridge.
The promise of a encrypted email does not work if your contacts are not on proton too (for me was 100% of my contacts).
If you are really focused on privacy you would choose nextcloud for cloud for example and keypass or Bitwarden for password managers.
I would like them to focus on email client features and stop this side hustles.
Proton’s whole reason to exist is to provide privacy, not email client features.
I hear what you’re saying but Nextcloud is definitely not a viable option for reliable backups. Wayyyy too buggy to trust
Certainly way too buggy if you’re selfhosting. At least that was my experience. And if you’re not, the privacy component really goes away.
Fortunately, I don’t have the same experiences as you. I mean, sure, I’ve encountered bugs in the Android app, but I’ve never lost any files with my selfhosted Nextcloud server.
Setting up the Nextcloud server and optimizing it was quite a big hassle for me (took an entire afternoon), but after it was all done, I was pretty happy with it.
No, the web UI is quite slow and that probably won’t change, but the caldav server and the Windows Desktop app work perfect. The automatic upload of media on my (Android) phone has no issues at all.
In my experience, the most issues are with the web UI due to its bad performance, but besides that, it works perfectly.
I’ve had issues with updates. Maybe I should give it another look.
Nextcloud in the cloud works fine with KeepassXC
I can not be, nextcloud was just an example. I have never had an issue with nextcloud backups
Proton is not “losing focus”, you just have a misunderstanding as to what Proton is. If all you want is a free email provider, you’ve made the wrong choice with Proton. Proton is enhanced privacy and security, and with that, you’re going to make some minor sacrifices in convenience (MailBridge).
It absolutely does work. It limits your attack surface. In other words, if someone wanted to get your information, they couldn’t hack into and decrypt your emails, they would have to hack into the accounts of everyone you ever emailed, or whomever you emailed that they want the information from.
While many of their products are undercooked and slow to develop, the email client works extremely well, in my opinion, complete with many features that even the most popular email provider in the world (GMail) lacks. You know, like, being able to block people. And filters that actually work to organize the 40958323490 daily emails I receive against my will.
Currently Proton Pass is pretty bad, but I’m using it anyway because it’s “good enough” to delete 1 more subscription/account (1Password). If you can believe them there is lots of development and features that will be available in only a few weeks.