See, this is great for the first 2/3, then betrays the immaturity when it starts talking about sports as “kids games”.
Sports have been a critical part of human culture for longer than the language you use to dump on them. You do not have to like them, but belittling them just speaks to a kind of petty bias.
They are kids games. They’re tribal, and they’ve always been used for distracting the public into complacency as far back as the Roman republic at least – Bread and Circuses. Sports are the circuses.
critical part of human culture for longer than the language you use to dump on them
Critical for the ruling class to use so that they aren’t overthrown by the proles. Same as it ever was.
Sports are much older than the concept of a “ruling class”.
The argument that they are used as a distraction in capitalist societies does not detract from how central they are to the human condition. Hell, games aren’t even specific to humans
Sports are a relatively new dodge, roughly as old as monotheism. Don’t know the difference? Athletics is the act of physical contest and achievement, sports is expecting the populace to pay for your food and lodging so you can play games.
I haven’t played football, run around a track, played rounders or anything else since I was at school. They are what kids do and yeah – people who do them for a living? They were probably the popular kids who still think they are in senior school and never grew out of it.
Most people haven’t played music since school but I’d argue Chopin’s preludes are not children’s music.
I wouldn’t really go out of my way to watch sport but man does it have a great atmosphere when with friends and they’re passionate about it.
It’s quite arrogant to think this way in my opinion.
As is tying all sportspeople with the same brush. It really shows your ignorance. I don’t like UFC but Jake Shields is one of the few people speaking out in favour of Palestine from the sports world.
What’s more likely that everybody that was ever good a sport was also an asshole or that you’re misrepresenting people.
Disclaimer I suck at most sports, but I’m quite goated a pool. Everyone on my pool team was a different kind of person and had different personalities, morals and levels of empathy (all of which had more than you’re showing here.)
You don’t have to imagine. Sports is arguably the most consumed thing on this rock mate. Just because we don’t partake in something doesn’t take away from how it touches the real world.
Just one example I can think of off the top of my head is the Usyk fight last night. That gives a lot of hope and good feelings to the people of Ukraine as they go through a war of freedom.
There are plenty of people who don’t like music at all and literally never listen to it, but for me I’d top myself if music wasn’t around as it’s an escape for me.
I hope this doesn’t come across as me going in on you, just highlighting that what matters to us isn’t the same as what matters for others and if we want to be better then we should understand these things as it could help us make connections with other people and be less divisive.
There are plenty of people who think boxing is a barbaric display of pointless violence. Something that gained a little traction when a boxer died a week or so ago after his first fight.
Just as a matter of interest. And yeah, I know you aren’t going on at me personally. I understand it takes all sorts to make a world. And to be honest its no so much “sports” I have a problem with (boxing aside – that I admit I would like to see stopped but that’s a debate for another time) but “professional sports” and things like the Olympics, The World Cup and so on. Where we are encouraged to celebrate “heroes” who can do nothing more than run round in a circle faster than someone else.
I think that’s where my problems with “sports” tend to come from – not the sports themselves but the… the culture surrounding them and the unnecessary bullshit that goes along with them.
So on the boxing, as I said I’m not a sports head, but I did watch it last night as my friends like sport. I don’t know enough about injuries to determine if it should be banned but you can die skiing, do we ban that too. What about crossing the street.
You do seem to have a bias against sport to be honest. Like nobody makes you celebrate these people as heroes. I personally think it’s pretty damn cool to be the fastest person to run 100m.
Let me ask you this. What should be celebrated then? Is my job something worthy of doing, as a software developer?
Again, just because someone is the fastest or strongest doesn’t mean that is there everything.
Imagine you’re really good a throwing a ball really far and you play whilst a university, you’re studying medicine but sport blows up and you’re offered hundreds of millions a year. You telling me you turning that down?
With me not being into sports i can think of an example, but let me use music. Queen’s Brian May study physics at university. Pink Floyd were all well educated people.
If I didn’t know any better I would say your take seems like it comes from bitterness or jealousy of some sort.
If I don’t like football (soccer) who am I to say that those people don’t have a positive effect on the world. Marcus Rashford writes children’s books and does loads of community work in my city for instance.
If it’s there level of wealth you have issue with, there are billionaires out here contributing less to society. I’d rather ticket money and shirt sales go to the players than some dude in a suit.
Anyway, I don’t think any of us are going to come round to the others point of view and no hard feelings. It’s just if the roles were reversed here I might do a little introspection to see if I am being biased or not as I do try to treat everybody the same no matter how you make money, what you look like cause we don’t know shit about next man unless we’ve walked a mile in there shoes.
Sports is arguably the most consumed thing on this rock mate.
hmmm… I’d put it at #2 behind religion.
Funny how both are predicated on the populace supporting the ‘players’, so they don’t have to work the fields and can concentrate on improving their silly games, while living off the work of the rest of society.
It’s more to do with the fact that your living situation as an adult isn’t conducive to getting all your friends together regularly and playing games to relax. Kids have enough free time that they can easily overcome the stupid town planning we’ve given ourselves. Even then, plenty of adults still play pickup basketball, volleyball, and other sports for fun.
Sports have been a critical part of human culture for longer than the language you use to dump on them. You do not have to like them, but belittling them just speaks to a kind of petty bias.
You don’t see it as a kid’s game because you’re childish.
Athletics have been part of human culture. SPORTS, especially over-paid pro-sports, is a very new thing. No one was paying gladiators millions of dollars (equivalent) in the roman empire. They might earn their freedom, and I think in a tiny tiny amount of exceptional cases, citizenship. Sports is not all encompassing athletics. Sports is the orchestration of athletics to sell shit. It’s the cancer that takes a good thing and makes it repugnant.
It’s also a healthy way to express our tribal instincts. Our brains are hardwired to be tribal and we will find some outlet for it. Probably good to have an outlet other than racism and political violence to satisfy out monkey brain urges.
And playing sports is exercise, so good for the physical health.
But for the people that need to use social media to express their tribalism, then go ahead and type out how I’m evil for not being in your particular internet tribe. Go ahead and get it all out.
I’m still kind of amazed at the sportsball fandom in the lemmy tumblr community. I put it down to a large amount of crazyfuckingvideos-like demographics subbing to everything in lemmy as a reddit replacement. R/tumblr being a good place for memes and interesting bits (or, was), but not for people who also like tumblr? I guess? It’s weird.
You don’t watch any TV shows, or are a fan of any video game franchises, or anything?
The whole “Sportsball hate” group is so full of fucking dweebs. You think you’re coming across as “mature”/"intelligent or something, when you’re a huge fucking dork piece of shit. I guarentee you have lame fucking hobbies.
You’re gonna have a rough time in this world, I can promise you that.
You think you’re coming across as “mature”/"intelligent or something, when you’re a huge fucking dork piece of shit. I guarentee you have lame fucking hobbies.
Hey six days in, and makin friends in the ol’ tumblr comm! Good for you li’l buddy.
See, this is great for the first 2/3, then betrays the immaturity when it starts talking about sports as “kids games”.
Sports have been a critical part of human culture for longer than the language you use to dump on them. You do not have to like them, but belittling them just speaks to a kind of petty bias.
They are kids games. They’re tribal, and they’ve always been used for distracting the public into complacency as far back as the Roman republic at least – Bread and Circuses. Sports are the circuses.
Critical for the ruling class to use so that they aren’t overthrown by the proles. Same as it ever was.
Sports are much older than the concept of a “ruling class”.
The argument that they are used as a distraction in capitalist societies does not detract from how central they are to the human condition. Hell, games aren’t even specific to humans
ATHLETICS ARE OLDER THAN CLASSES.
Sports are a relatively new dodge, roughly as old as monotheism. Don’t know the difference? Athletics is the act of physical contest and achievement, sports is expecting the populace to pay for your food and lodging so you can play games.
yup. panem et circenses. these idiots think that since the grift goes back thousands of years it’s intrinsic to the human experience.
it’s up there with religion in it’s ability to distort people who would otherwise be rational thinkers into idiocy.
How would you describe them?
I haven’t played football, run around a track, played rounders or anything else since I was at school. They are what kids do and yeah – people who do them for a living? They were probably the popular kids who still think they are in senior school and never grew out of it.
Could the same be said for music?
Most people haven’t played music since school but I’d argue Chopin’s preludes are not children’s music.
I wouldn’t really go out of my way to watch sport but man does it have a great atmosphere when with friends and they’re passionate about it.
It’s quite arrogant to think this way in my opinion.
As is tying all sportspeople with the same brush. It really shows your ignorance. I don’t like UFC but Jake Shields is one of the few people speaking out in favour of Palestine from the sports world.
What’s more likely that everybody that was ever good a sport was also an asshole or that you’re misrepresenting people.
Disclaimer I suck at most sports, but I’m quite goated a pool. Everyone on my pool team was a different kind of person and had different personalities, morals and levels of empathy (all of which had more than you’re showing here.)
Music accomplishes something for people other than the person performing it.
I would argue the same can’t be said for sports.
As for the “popular kid at school” comment – I didn’t say everyone who was popular was a dick.
You don’t have to imagine. Sports is arguably the most consumed thing on this rock mate. Just because we don’t partake in something doesn’t take away from how it touches the real world.
Just one example I can think of off the top of my head is the Usyk fight last night. That gives a lot of hope and good feelings to the people of Ukraine as they go through a war of freedom.
There are plenty of people who don’t like music at all and literally never listen to it, but for me I’d top myself if music wasn’t around as it’s an escape for me.
I hope this doesn’t come across as me going in on you, just highlighting that what matters to us isn’t the same as what matters for others and if we want to be better then we should understand these things as it could help us make connections with other people and be less divisive.
There are plenty of people who think boxing is a barbaric display of pointless violence. Something that gained a little traction when a boxer died a week or so ago after his first fight.
Just as a matter of interest. And yeah, I know you aren’t going on at me personally. I understand it takes all sorts to make a world. And to be honest its no so much “sports” I have a problem with (boxing aside – that I admit I would like to see stopped but that’s a debate for another time) but “professional sports” and things like the Olympics, The World Cup and so on. Where we are encouraged to celebrate “heroes” who can do nothing more than run round in a circle faster than someone else.
I think that’s where my problems with “sports” tend to come from – not the sports themselves but the… the culture surrounding them and the unnecessary bullshit that goes along with them.
So on the boxing, as I said I’m not a sports head, but I did watch it last night as my friends like sport. I don’t know enough about injuries to determine if it should be banned but you can die skiing, do we ban that too. What about crossing the street.
You do seem to have a bias against sport to be honest. Like nobody makes you celebrate these people as heroes. I personally think it’s pretty damn cool to be the fastest person to run 100m.
Let me ask you this. What should be celebrated then? Is my job something worthy of doing, as a software developer?
Again, just because someone is the fastest or strongest doesn’t mean that is there everything.
Imagine you’re really good a throwing a ball really far and you play whilst a university, you’re studying medicine but sport blows up and you’re offered hundreds of millions a year. You telling me you turning that down?
With me not being into sports i can think of an example, but let me use music. Queen’s Brian May study physics at university. Pink Floyd were all well educated people.
If I didn’t know any better I would say your take seems like it comes from bitterness or jealousy of some sort.
If I don’t like football (soccer) who am I to say that those people don’t have a positive effect on the world. Marcus Rashford writes children’s books and does loads of community work in my city for instance.
If it’s there level of wealth you have issue with, there are billionaires out here contributing less to society. I’d rather ticket money and shirt sales go to the players than some dude in a suit.
Anyway, I don’t think any of us are going to come round to the others point of view and no hard feelings. It’s just if the roles were reversed here I might do a little introspection to see if I am being biased or not as I do try to treat everybody the same no matter how you make money, what you look like cause we don’t know shit about next man unless we’ve walked a mile in there shoes.
hmmm… I’d put it at #2 behind religion.
Funny how both are predicated on the populace supporting the ‘players’, so they don’t have to work the fields and can concentrate on improving their silly games, while living off the work of the rest of society.
It’s more to do with the fact that your living situation as an adult isn’t conducive to getting all your friends together regularly and playing games to relax. Kids have enough free time that they can easily overcome the stupid town planning we’ve given ourselves. Even then, plenty of adults still play pickup basketball, volleyball, and other sports for fun.
You don’t see it as a kid’s game because you’re childish.
Athletics have been part of human culture. SPORTS, especially over-paid pro-sports, is a very new thing. No one was paying gladiators millions of dollars (equivalent) in the roman empire. They might earn their freedom, and I think in a tiny tiny amount of exceptional cases, citizenship. Sports is not all encompassing athletics. Sports is the orchestration of athletics to sell shit. It’s the cancer that takes a good thing and makes it repugnant.
It’s also a healthy way to express our tribal instincts. Our brains are hardwired to be tribal and we will find some outlet for it. Probably good to have an outlet other than racism and political violence to satisfy out monkey brain urges.
And playing sports is exercise, so good for the physical health.
But for the people that need to use social media to express their tribalism, then go ahead and type out how I’m evil for not being in your particular internet tribe. Go ahead and get it all out.
Also, fuck the Yankees.
I’m still kind of amazed at the sportsball fandom in the lemmy tumblr community. I put it down to a large amount of crazyfuckingvideos-like demographics subbing to everything in lemmy as a reddit replacement. R/tumblr being a good place for memes and interesting bits (or, was), but not for people who also like tumblr? I guess? It’s weird.
Like, what kind of shit do you like?
You don’t watch any TV shows, or are a fan of any video game franchises, or anything?
The whole “Sportsball hate” group is so full of fucking dweebs. You think you’re coming across as “mature”/"intelligent or something, when you’re a huge fucking dork piece of shit. I guarentee you have lame fucking hobbies.
You’re gonna have a rough time in this world, I can promise you that.
the sportsball types come to this conclusion after about two seconds of deep contemplation.
it’s hardly mature to obsess over men in tight pants running around a field playing a children’s game but being paid millions of dollars.
maturity would be to realize these games, and the associated billions wasted in gambling on them, are a drain on our society.
I’m not anti-athletics, I’m anti-organzied pro sports.
Hey six days in, and makin friends in the ol’ tumblr comm! Good for you li’l buddy.
Maybe you should go back to Reddit?