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    It’s entirely the Democratic Party’s fault if Trump wins another term. But their online cheerleaders are so keen to blame Communists who are such a miniscule percentage of the voting population. Are you going to start Muslim-bashing as well if they don’t turn out in huge numbers to vote for Joenicide?

    The sole “Trump will be worse” pitch and constant hostility is absolutely pathetic, and not an election winning strategy. Even your own party leadership knows it. The disconnect between the actual party and it’s online supporters is huge.

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      6 months ago

      Chips act, green energy, union empowerment, student debt, marijuana reform, etc etc etc. Anyone that says Biden isn’t doing anything is wilfully ignorant.

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        I’m waiting for the full student debt relief and pardons for everyone currently jailed for marijuana. It’s better than nothing, but not enough to change the slow decay. Third party or bust.

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          There’s a thing called jurisdiction. They can’t give debt relief for everyone, just the ones with federal loans. They can’t pardon everyone for marijuana, just those with federal offences. Most marijuana offences are state charges. So guess what? If you want state charges to be pardoned, you better vote in state elections!

          Yeah you’re bust all right voting for third party. Even if your third party wins (lol) you’re going to find that little thing called jurisdiction.

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        The hivemind in this comment is strong. When you lose in Rock Paper Scissors, do you “blame” the other person?

        Whether or not you blame Trump’s supporters (who want the credit for a victory) or Communists (who want something new), you don’t gain anything.

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      Is it the Democratic Party’s job to spoon-feed everyone the reasons why trump is bad, and despite the lack of press, explain the good things they have done? Because it’s people like you who just spout the negatives and never point out the positives to balance against the potential fallout. You know, the line that goes like “The Dems have absolutely done [bad shit] but we have this [good shit over here] and obviously the republicans and trump want to undo all the [good shit] and are going to do their damndest to impose a fascist dictatorship.

      The sole “Trump will be worse” pitch and constant hostility is absolutely pathetic…

      Bullshit. It’s a valid reason. Again, I refer to my comment that there is some implication that people need to be spoon-fed. People need to take some damn responsibility and learn the differences themselves, that’s why we have the premise (as deeply flawed as it seems these days) that the people are supposed to be in charge of who gets elected. So if all you hear is “Trump bad” that’s your own damn fault for not taking a few minutes to figure out why, not the democratic party’s fault.

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      No, no, no. The GOP is despicable and irresponsible. They are to blame for all of this.

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        Really? Because in the last 40 years, we’ve had a mix of Republicans and Democrats in power, yet here we are. Something’s got to change.

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          That’s exactly the point. It’s no mystery the GOP are undoing what the Dems achieve…literally a front page article where a gop appointed judge strikes down a Biden policy.

          Edit: The more I think about this the more I realize how fucking dumb this argument is.

          Two kids are asked to complete a project together. One does all the research and writes the whole report because the other was busy reading their Bible and posting on 4chan.

          You’re saying they both flunk and it’s kid 1s fault.

          I could practicallly take my thumbs and force them in your eyeballs I hate you so much.

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            So I actually agree with your point (minus the part where you physically want to gauge my eyeballs out), but it’s still not going to make me vote Dems. Maybe if the Dems were actually perfect and I agreed with their policies, but I just supported them previously because they’re “better than the Republicans”. I’m tired of the BS, so now I’m camp third party. I don’t expect you to change your mind off the Dems either, but I just wanted to give you a better idea how I got here.

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      Are you going to start Muslim-bashing as well if they don’t turn out in huge numbers to vote for Joenicide?

      I don’t do the muslim bashing thing, but I do think the TikTok influencers convincing impressionable youth that A) there’s a genocide happening (it’s not) and B) not voting will make things better.

      Foreign policy is foreign policy. Global interests don’t change on a dime. The main difference between Biden and Trump is that Trump would be cheerleading Netanyahu and telling him he shouldn’t be doing targetted airstrikes but instead carpet bomb entire neighborhoods. The US woulb be making zero effort in negotiating a ceasefire and there would not be a pier built to help distribute food.

      Only an idiot would think that demanding the faculty of a university to do someone the bring about the end of a foreign conflict will accomplish anything. But the point of these pro-palestinian movements isn’t to accomplish anything, it’s all performative. It’s just a reason to hang out in a tent with some friends and get social media clout.

      Anyone with half a brain that actually cared about Palestinians would be voting for Biden and doing everything they could to get him re-elected because it’s obvious how much worse things will be for Palestinians with Trump as President. Like how much do you think Trump will do to help in reconstruction of Gaza after the war is over?

      But the Pro-Palestinian movement is mostly performative and they don’t really care about Palestinians. If more Palestinians die, it’ll be a good reason to have more fun get-togethers to “protest”, more money to be made for TikTok influencers, and more donations to terrorist factions in Palestine. The suffering of Palestinians is very profitable for a lot of people.

      Joe Biden cares more about Palestinians than you do.

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      It’s entirely the Democratic Party’s fault if Trump wins another term.

      lol