• thehatfox@lemmy.world
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    There’s poo in the rivers and it’s now going to be illegal to be homeless, did I wake up in the past?

    I think it’s time the Conservative Party had a rebrand because they really don’t seem to be conserving much these days. Except for established wealth that is.

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      How and terry from the american colonies, I hear in the past the french found a solution to this.

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        The French still have a solution to this. If Brits were more on board with damaging property we’d get more done.

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          If you want to go and start a riot be my guest. But in no way shape or form will it help with the current situation. So really you’re just starting to riot because you want one.

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            I don’t think sitting and suffering (the english way) is to be applauded either, and since we have tentative control of our democracy, I’m not sure what other meaningful options we have

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    As yes, because that will solve poverty. Bring back debtors prison I say, and we’ll party like it’s 1824!

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    That’s not what the quote you posted says, it says it tackles that two things, not that it makes them illegal.

    It does mention some things that are to be made criminal offences right before this bit though, to trick people into posting such headlines, I suspect.

    This whole thing sucks anyway, but I think we could use some clarity on exactly what will be made illegal?

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        Slippery slope? All it does is provide an enforcement option for orgs who don’t want people begging on their property.

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          you don’t see that as an avenue for more and more orgs to do this by default, and given the lack of public spaces in our cities, essentially making it impossible to beg anywhere?

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            Bro wtf are you on about? There’s tons of public spaces in the UK, cities included.

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              At least where I live, you’ll be hard pressed to find a spot in the city where a homeless person can sleep unnacosted, either by spikes being put down on flat surfaces, parks being closed at night, and benches that aren’t on a main road.

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              I don’t think you’ve ever been to the UK. Most of those “public” spaces are corporate property and if you and your homelessness damage their brand they’ll escort you off.

              The homeless camps on high street ken during the pandemic had this happen to them all the time, as if the cruel irony of rough sleepers next to wholefoods and dyson shit blower 3k ads wasn’t enough to make humanity unevolve powered solely by cringe alone and let trilobites, or some particularly feisty proto-moss take the top spot instead.

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                I’ve lived up and down the UK for nearly 30 years. In both the north and the south you can basically bump into public spaces that can be used by the homeless. Just because your city ain’t got them doesn’t mean it’s the same for the rest of the UK.

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                  lived north and south

                  So have I and your “can” gives away that you don’t actually know, you’re just assuming so.

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        🙄 or like, you could admit you were wrong, remove the propaganda, and not resort to your head cannon 🤷‍♂️

        Seems extremely reasonable for dealing with aggressive homeless individuals.

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          “aggressive homeless individuals”

          There it is.

          There’s the problem.

          You’re assuming this will be used when needed, and not used in excess, trampling down people who are already underfoot.

          All cops are bastards, no exceptions for location.

          If they CAN abuse a law, they WILL abuse it. At every opportunity.

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            I know. There are issues with the police, so now we can’t have laws on the books either. Despite circumstances many homeless don’t take no for an answer and threaten people. There needs to be a law to detain those people. That’s regardless of the help they will or wont get or accept before or after.