You’re indoors in the sense that you’re protected from the weather and the elements, and the cave could even have some kind of covering or entrance area that could be considered a door or doorway. People have built homes in caves.
Is caving an outside, inside activity?
It’s neither, it’s an underground activity :)
Is there usually a door at the entrance to a cave?
In Germany? Yes
Ever played the elder scrolls?
What room has a roof and ceiling but no walls…
A mush-room!^^
Lichen your style
You moss be kidding, that was leek at best.
I say outdoors. Indoors has a vibe of being human made to me, and a low likelihood of encountering wildlife. So I guess walking around a mine is indoor cave exploration
Many caves are modified to accommodate their visitors. This could be a small as leaving behind oxygen tanks or equipment, or as advanced as installing electrical wiring and ventilation. This was the case of several caves I visited as a tourist with no real exploration skills.
there are other ways to modify a cave
I’d like to know more about this picture!
Eagle’s Nest (sinkhole) in Florida
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Thanks! That was an interesting read!
Yes
I would consider a cave to be “outdoors” unless maybe somethings been done to it to make it into a dwelling. Since there is no door it’s at least somewhat open to the elements, you would have to contend with various wildlife that may live there, the floor would be either dirt or bare rock, these are all things one would have to deal with while doing “outdoor activities”
I’m going to say outdoor.
The “door” part doesn’t really have any significance. No one would say camping under the open sky is an indoor activity, even if there’s a fence with a door around the campsite.
I think it makes more sense for the deciding factor be whether you’re in a controlled or uncontrolled environment. And while part of the cave might be controlled if there’s an artificial entryway or home, that’s not what you’re there to see.
Maybe I’m gatekeeping, but isn’t a fence door a gate?
I’ve been in show caves in Bonaire that had some degree of climate control, mainly for humidity and to ensure sufficient oxygen for visitors for a comfortable experience and to accommodate large groups.
Certainly that’s the exception rather than the rule in my case.
Caves are outdoors because a bunker is indoors and the cave around it is outdoors.
Just for the sake of argument and fun:
Aren’t we all outdoors because we are living in buildings that are themselves outside?
I agree with the door argument but would also add my two cents… If it’s a cave dwelling it would be inside but you also wouldn’t be cave exploring. You’d be in a ‘civilized’ area
‘Civilized’? You’ve clearly not seen my house then, it’s wall-to-wall beer cans, some empty, some not, some with piss in
That’s why civilized was in quotes. You’re “civilized”
Depending on the development of the spelunking infrastructure entering the cave might entail going in then outdoors again.
Indoors is an enclosed building, outdoors is everything outside of that
It depends if the cave has a door.
Some people live in huts or other types of human dwellings that don’t have entry doors. They have doorways.
When I was visiting the Philippines I saw homes on stilts that did not actually have doors, but I would certainly consider the inside of such a structure to be indoors. Pre-colonial architecture may not use a front door.
I recognize this isn’t a great argument, but it’s arguable I think in principle.
If you don’t go in a door you’re not indoors.
