There’s a new Google Messages update page that takes up your phone’s entire display every time you open the app.
Granted, keeping your apps up to date is important, and this new system will help get that across to users. But we’re not sure annoying the hell out of the user about it is the best strategy.
That’s still (slightly) better than apps which force close when they’re not updated, and don’t allow you to do anything at all.
What else is an app supposed to do if the server has been updated and is no longer compatible with the app version you are using?
if that happens occasionally, it’s fine. I’ve seen apps which update every other week and do this bullshit.
If this annoys you, try QKSMS instead. Go another step further and flash GrapheneOS onto your Pixel. It’s worth it for the peace of mind.
If only we could get RCS with any app other than Google’s. I wonder how long they can gatekeep those APIs.
As long as they can get away with it
Is this something akin to what Apple does by adding application layer functionality to SMS messaging? And, please correct me if I’m wrong about how the apple stuff works.
No, iMessage is a completely separate protocol and has nothing to do with SMS. It uses WiFi/Cellular data, unlike SMS. It doesn’t involve your mobile carrier at all, it all goes through Apple’s servers. They just put iMessage (which is basically like WhatsApp or Signal) and SMS into the same app and made everything confusing and annoying to use.
I have to have MS apps for work and so have two devices, one with Lineage and one stock…its amazing how bad the stock experience is on a Galaxy Tab. Samsung and Google constantly bugs me to use apps I can’t remove or turn off. Its infuriating that this is a tablet I paid for.
Have you tried the Universal Android Debloater?
Hey no did not know about this. Thanks!
QKSMS is great
And even better, move to QUIK as it is it’s actively maintained successor.
Just want to leave these links here
GitHub: https://github.com/octoshrimpy/quik
F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dev.octoshrimpy.quik/
That’s weird, isn’t Google Play already updating apps without asking?
(QKSMS master race btw)
That’s weird, isn’t Google Play already updating apps without asking?
My understanding is that yes, you are correct, it’s auto-updated in the background.
Its on by default but you can turn it off. I did so because it takes a good chunk of battery life away when your phone out of the blue decides to start updating apps.
Its on by default but you can turn it off. I did so because it takes a good chunk of battery life away when your phone out of the blue decides to start updating apps.
Believe there’s a setting to have it only do updates when there’s wifi available, which takes less battery.
Not clicking that sketchy link. Also it makes no sense to quote an entire message like that.
What’s sketchy about https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en ?
That isn’t what they posted, they obscured the url with a bunch of garbage text. I’m not bothering to check the url when the text looks like that.
Well, feel free to click on this link then: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en
(it’s just a link to Google homepage - the point is that you really shouldn’t trust the link text lol)
Not clicking that sketchy link.
You’ve never heard of a Creative Commons license?
It’s not ‘sketchy’ at all.
Also it makes no sense to quote an entire message like that.
Actually you can just highlight the comment you’re replying to before hitting the reply button, and the Lemmy web client will copy it down for you quoted.
I started doing that when I found out people were going back and changing the reply to me after I successfully countered it, to make my reply look incorrect or off-subject.
Basically, documenting the conversation at that moment of time, so my reply is not misrepresented later on.
Fuck bots
Fuck bots
You’ve never heard of a Creative Commons license?
The wiki article about Creative Commons…
Pulling a microsoft
I guess it’s time to switch to Linux
Great option on desktop. For mobile devices, I recommend GrapheneOS, it’s Android without all the proprietary Google bullshit and with massive privacy/security improvements.
Might sacrifice my older fold 3 to see if its possible on foldables. Dont think it is.
Unfortunately it currently only works with Google Pixel devices, but it does support the Pixel Fold, as all the foldable-related code is included in AOSP (which GrapheneOS is built from)
Didn’t all android apps take up your entire screen when you open them?
As a Lineage OS user I don’t have this weakness
Your OS has lots of other weaknesses (literally) though. GrapheneOS is the way to go, DivestOS is another option.
I don’t have a pixel (literally) though so graphene isn’t an option but thanks.
That’s why I mentioned DivestOS, it’s built on top of Lineage but has much better security (including the ability to re-lock the bootloader). It supports many devices, including some older devices.
CalyxOS or GrapheneOS if on Pixel or Divest if your device is supported on LineageOS, and you won’t have to deal with Google’s BS.
Use Fossify SMS, QKSMS or QUIK SMS (updated fork of QKSMS)
If you’re tired of all this Google bullshit, switch to a better Android ROM like GrapheneOS or DivestOS, these don’t include any of Google’s proprietary spyware and improve your privacy/security.
What about RCS?
Unfortunately AOSP (controlled by Google, keep that in mind) doesn’t provide an API for RCS messaging. That means, you can’t use a third-party app. Google doesn’t allow you to use a third party app because they want to force you to use their proprietary garbage.
Pretty sure a lot of apps do this now
It is even worse: I disabled it on my Poco and it reappeared couple of days ago. Fuck Google!
Can’t you remove it with the Universal Android Debloater or just flash a custom ROM?
Yes, I removed it but Google installed it again… This phone can be unlocked and flashed with LineageOS, I just had no time to play with it…
Which Poco is it?
Poco X3 pro
You could install DivestOS, it’s a more secure OS build on top of Lineage. Here’s the link for your device if you want to check it out: https://divestos.org/pages/devices#device-vayu
Thanks!
I might worry about that if I ever opened the app.
Does anyone know the last version that didn’t do this?
Edit: trying messages.android_20240123_01_RC04, we’ll see if it works
Edit 2: for posterity, no that version also bugs you to update. The search continues.
For me, i couldn’t reply via notifications until I updated. That’s usually the case for me.
Has anyone else lost the ability to scroll their messages with the bar showing you the dates?
That sounds like an awesome feature, but no, I don’t have it. And I’m not sure I ever did.
The bar shows dates?
Yes when you grab and scroll it shows the date
I don’t think I have ever seen that feature. Seems nice though.
It’s probably just Google A/B testing like usual. Hopefully everyone gets it eventually.
I uninstalled that crap years ago in favor of Key Messaging. Has an awesome keyword filter and spam blacklist.
Is it open source?
Nope, but I don’t care about that.
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God forbid you communicate through a channel not governed by Facebook
SMS is pretty much the default option in North America
Slowly changing, glacial pace.
Yeah, I need it for all folks jot using Signal.
Yes exactly, so that’s why I need an SMS app that’s filtering all the spam out and is as least intrusive as possible. I only want my 2FA messages to go through, nothing else.
